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    I dont think its good to try compare this communication to XIV, you have a direct feedback source to XIV's development and developerz, and they get responses back and Yoshi posts regular news letters, even did the live, i feel Yoshi takes the feedback more to heart than the SP game developers do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    I dont think its good to try compare this communication to XIV, you have a direct feedback source to XIV's development and developerz, and they get responses back and Yoshi posts regular news letters, even did the live, i feel Yoshi takes the feedback more to heart than the SP game developers do.
    I think the same way too. The XIII-2 devs are out of touch with the player base (yet it still sold tons of copies because it's a FF title and it was the first FF title for PS3), but I seriously doubt the way they do things has much to do with the way Yoshida does things. We were promised better communication when Yoshida took over, and it's been generally pretty decent. Seems like the JP side updates are more frequent though. With the frequency of Reinhart's posts, I can truthfully say I'm envious of the JP side and their fairly frequent dev tracker responses - sometimes Yoshida himself responds to these posts.

    Would be pretty cool getting (even if it's a translated) response from Yoshida in one of our threads for issues that the English speaking community specifically brings up. Usually when we get translated Yoshida responses it's often because both the JP and English speaking communities are talking about the same subject (more so the JP side), and normally the response was to what someone else posted on the JP side. Completely understandable, considering the language barrier.

    Don't get me wrong, our English speaking community reps are great, but sometimes once in awhile it's great to get responses straight from the horse's mouth, in a sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahn View Post
    I think the same way too. The XIII-2 devs are out of touch with the player base (yet it still sold tons of copies because it's a FF title and it was the first FF title for PS3), but I seriously doubt the way they do things has much to do with the way Yoshida does things. We were promised better communication when Yoshida took over, and it's been generally pretty decent. Seems like the JP side updates are more frequent though. With the frequency of Reinhart's posts, I can truthfully say I'm envious of the JP side and their fairly frequent dev tracker responses - sometimes Yoshida himself responds to these posts.

    Would be pretty cool getting (even if it's a translated) response from Yoshida in one of our threads for issues that the English speaking community specifically brings up. Usually when we get translated Yoshida responses it's often because both the JP and English speaking communities are talking about the same subject (more so the JP side), and normally the response was to what someone else posted on the JP side. Completely understandable, considering the language barrier.

    Don't get me wrong, our English speaking community reps are great, but sometimes once in awhile it's great to get responses straight from the horse's mouth, in a sense.

    If anything I think we can all agree on the fact that XIV's dev team is at least a little more attuned to what the majority of the customers want especially compared to XIII-folk.

    Even simple things like character designs from Nomura are not in the game even though the travesty of X-2's games have been a joke for a decade now.

    I guess it's more the tone if the interview that sounds like there's no hope because Kitase insists that they haven't and aren't moving away from FF series' core strengths with time travel and even more tacky pink bras in j-pop ballads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seif View Post
    If anything I think we can all agree on the fact that XIV's dev team is at least a little more attuned to what the majority of the customers want especially compared to XIII-folk.

    Even simple things like character designs from Nomura are not in the game even though the travesty of X-2's games have been a joke for a decade now.

    I guess it's more the tone if the interview that sounds like there's no hope because Kitase insists that they haven't and aren't moving away from FF series' core strengths with time travel and even more tacky pink bras in j-pop ballads.
    Are you insinuating that Nomura's character designs are bad?
    I can't comprehend your statement but if this is the case; you're insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucifer View Post
    Are you insinuating that Nomura's character designs are bad?
    I can't comprehend your statement but if this is the case; you're insane.

    Lol no I'm not ,quite the opposite. He only did faces of XIII-2 chars which is basically almost the same as not working on the game at all. Sorry if that wasn't clear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    It's been pretty much established for a long time that FF fanbase is a headless chicken waiting to be put out of it's misery.
    Lol.. this made me laugh. I can kind of see what you mean, can you elaborate?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucifer View Post
    Are you insinuating that Nomura's character designs are bad?
    I can't comprehend your statement but if this is the case; you're insane.
    Bad is too broad of a word to describe XIII's character designs. Ridiculous, narcissistic, flamboyant, those are better words. Seriously if you look at FFX the designs are kind of cool going from fantasy before that and the semi sci fi setting and just looking at the whole scope of it. Lulu's dress of belts, Tidus' ridiculous accessorization - I think in a way it could pass for extreme fashion design at its best. I think it was acceptable in X but then Nomura went completely overboard. FFXIII is purely ridiculous. In the first hour you have people running around in their underwear shooting weapons in a battle, some people in hooded robes, others with their ass hanging out, all of them dressed like some mad scientist fashion student got ahold of them. It just wasn't believable for a second. All it established was how ridiculous and narcissistic the creators of Final Fantasy had become. Instead of humbling himself before some kind of theme, Nomura went wild (I think) into a spazzed out trip of self indulgent narcissistic wish fulfillment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucifer View Post
    Are you insinuating that Nomura's character designs are bad?
    I can't comprehend your opinion; you're insane because you have tastes opposing of my own! Leave this place foul demon! Never again will you disgrace this land with your bilious tastes!
    I'm insinuating that!
    Hell I'll outright say it! Nomura's character designs are awful!


    His monster and environment designs however are pretty cool.

    I've just always preferred Yoshida's art. So much more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramul View Post
    I'm insinuating that!
    Hell I'll outright say it! Nomura's character designs are awful!


    His monster and environment designs however are pretty cool.

    I've just always preferred Yoshida's art. So much more.
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