To healers enjoying 5.0: a gil for your thoughts?

[Misutoraru]

AST main back in SB and I was worry about the card change. After some run with new AST, I found it isn’t so bad after all, pre 5.0, just draw card, AOE balace/AOE def/AOE crit in raid. This new card is similar to previous system, jus took at range or melee or tank or heal, and watch for the seal. With the higher heal demand I found I am more busy and occupied, which is what I preferred over dropping some dps spell. I hope such higher heal demand will be consistent throughout the whole expension. The only change I would like to see would be having divination CD lower, I don’t mind weaken the buff abit inexchange of more frequent up time

[ElainaMason]

I'm almost happy with WHM. I'm level 80 and it feels like there is no really big change. Only missing some raid utility but it has been the same in Stormblood, so doesn't really matter.

So after I finished my WHM I started to level my AST next.
Did anyone mention, that taking a card and giving the card to a person (don't know english skill names) is now on 2 different slots? Why the hell? Don't have a keybord-slot for this. Need to click and that feels pretty bad for me. No good flow in playing.

[Almostward]

The new Ast feels terrible, and I was a Ast main since Heavensward. The new card system is depressing .Sch I cant really comment on since I really never got into the job. I leveled it and that was all. Whm got away cleanly. They got the best work done out of all jobs

[IanFrench]

A quote from Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...o_be_a_healer/

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WHM is a monster right now. Holy spam is silly good against trash and you have 4 instant ways of healing or preventing damage. Plenary Indulgence turns Medica 2 into a full heal for the party, Lilies are a free and instant Cure 2 every 30 seconds, and Divine Beneson takes tank busters like a champ now that it scales with healing. I find myself almost never casting cure anymore because of all the ways you can prep for damage spikes. And I'm a sucker for all the shininess of Dia and Glare, they look so pretty.

[Orbus]

Pretty much what Ian posted, and my WHM is only 71.
Medica 2's total potency is 700 and with the reduced tick time with bigger ticks it's fast enough that might as well be a full party cure2, then you can add plenary indulgence to make it *even better*.
Also plenary indulgence doesn't go away after one heal, so two afflatus rapture's is a massive heal bomb.

Also also, medica 2 costs less mp than cure 3, which makes medica 2 so good that it almost seems like an oversight since this renders cure 3 almost useless unless for some reason you don't have any lilies for rapture, assize and asylum on cooldown AND you already have medica 2 up and ticking and you *still* somehow need more aoe healing and media 1 doesn't cut it.
A situation that I find... improbable.

[Gravagar]

I don't know what to say to this. It feels like you're putting words in my mouth. I mean, to me it was just a DoT with an ugly animation that cost a lot of MP.

This isn't the place to argue this, though. Someone asked for my opinion -- as someone who enjoys it currently -- and I gave it. Really, there's very little substance to these arguments, anyway.

Could you explain what part sounds like putting words in your mouth, or what part has little substance? You lost me there. My point was that there was so much more to it than that; that if you dug deeper, you'd find treasure.


I did pose the question to hear people's thoughts, but I guess continuing the conversation with my own perspective afterwards wasn't as well received. Ouch.

[Lynesse]

...if you dug deeper, you'd find treasure.

This is a good example of why it isn't well received. These arguments are fallacies, and it's disrespectful.

I did dig deeper. I did find treasure. I found a diamond in the rough, one that was polished with this new rework.

There's plenty to support why it was a diamond in the rough. SB's launch, the subsequent updates, the QoL problems that got in the way of what was a fun rhythm.

These discussions devolve into elitism. By saying, "If you dug deeper..." You assume this stance that you know more than I do. You do not.

I don't know more than you, either. This is an opinion piece. It's important to respect that.

[kartana]

AST is fine if they shorten the Divination cooldown. The changes take some getting used to but I am having fun still.

Did anyone mention, that taking a card and giving the card to a person (don't know english skill names) is now on 2 different slots? Why the hell? Don't have a keybord-slot for this. Need to click and that feels pretty bad for me. No good flow in playing.

They removed spread, road, remove spread and remove road, that gives you 4 free keyboard slots.

[CarnivalNights]

The sky isn't falling.

Healers just don't like that we're becoming more traditional healer roles. I actually like it. Healing was trivialized for so long in this game and people were fooled into thinking that healer DPS was something more than it really is: mediocre spells, doing mediocre damage mixed in with shallow gameplay. Even tanks have a rotation, healers just literally have between one or two spells they heavily rely on. It was pathetic seeing that being a good healer meant that you just did your mechanics right and did great DPS and not because of how well you healed because the tanks and the content didn't really have much need for healing except during scripted moments like tankbusters and seeing people praise that kind of gameplay crushed my soul.

You would literally just DPS your brains out and then just cast a heal spell here and there. I like that healing is relevant now. It should've never been trivialized, but I guess the developers couldn't balance out the healing game until an expansion, where they could freely roll out huge and substantial changes across the board. Thank god, because being a healer now actually means being a healer, not this stupid meme of hurr hurr im a dee p ess nawt a helur hurr

[Sebazy]

Are we really healing more though? In the dungeon I spammed last night I was nudging around 6k if the tank did big pulls. DPS were anywhere from 4 to 8k. Most tanks seemed around 4-5k. This was in the 75 dungeon mind. I need the mash the rest of the MSQ tonight and unlock expert again =(