Um, everyone wanted WHM to improve on the forums. Everyone wanted WHM to be viable past progression in the forums. And, you are totally projecting. So, cut it out, pls.Okay,sorry, but no. This is the last straw. CAN YOU PEOPLE PLEASE JUST ACCEPT THAT WHM GOT ONE SINGLE ADVANTAGE OVER YOU JUST THIS ONE TIME???
We got NO real raid utility, a single shield on a 30 seconds cooldown compared to your spamable ones, literally all we have is a bit higher damage we won't be able to keep up in movement-heavy fights and godlike MP management. You are deluding yourself if you believe for just one minute that WHM has a place in hardcore and even many midcore (hi, sheeples) groups for more than progression, and we've seen in the past that even that isn't a given at all. You already took over as the best healer, you are already holding all the advantages in your kits, you literally get them handed to you on a silver platter, and you still dare to demand to be made even more OP compared to us? I'm SO SICK of people literally demanding to have everything the WHM has, and then, when SE caves in to your tantrums, sneer on WHM for being so bad and boring and having nothing that makes them stand out.
So grow up already and accept the ONE. SINGLE. ADVANTAGE. WHM. HAS. OVER. YOU!
It's not that hard, you know. It won't hurt you, because you got all the rest that's important.
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And as soon as we have something, people come crying for it again. Yeah, I see how you want us to improve. Decide already. Do you want WHM to be viable, or do you want to have everything it got with your extras and then want to laugh? Because I see the latter in posts like the one I quoted above. And that's been the case ever since ARR.
"We need AoE heals on par with WHM, we need aggro reduce like WHM, we need a Cure III equivalent like WHM"
Stop crying for everything WHM has and finally demand diversity instead. Stop digging away the ground under our feet and accept equality (not that we actually have that...).

And as soon as we have something, people come crying for it again. Yeah, I see how you want us to improve. Decide already. Do you want WHM to be viable, or do you want to have everything it got with your extras and then want to laugh? Because I see the latter in posts like the one I quoted above. And that's been the case ever since ARR.
"We need AoE heals on par with WHM, we need aggro reduce like WHM, we need a Cure III equivalent like WHM"
Stop crying for everything WHM has and finally demand diversity instead. Stop digging away the ground under our feet and accept equality (not that we actually have that...).
Nobody is saying that they need/want heals like WHM lmao. Absolutely no one. You don't even have AST leveled enough to even comprehend the issues the class has as of right now lol. I don't think you understand how bad the other two healers have it to where some of us want to stick our heads in ovens because SE just stripped AST/SCH of their core identities + introduced a crap mechanic (Play). I find some of the stuff you say on this thread monkaHmm worthy. Such as; people wanting SCH/AST to be more "op" than WHM (no we just want to be able to play the class without necking ourselves). WHM has always been uncontested, NUMERO UNO, THE BEST, at raw healing. It honestly just sounds like you've got an inferiority complex regarding this whole situation between AST + SCH vs. WHM. If you honestly think that WHM has ever had issues with MP and it was only recently fixed with 5.0, you're part of the population that is overly dependent on Cure III (:
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WHM has been neglected for years, this is a revenge story.Nobody is saying that they need/want heals like WHM lmao. Absolutely no one. You don't even have AST leveled enough to even comprehend the issues the class has as of right now lol. I don't think you understand how bad the other two healers have it to where some of us want to stick our heads in ovens because SE just stripped AST/SCH of their core identities + introduced a crap mechanic (Play). I find some of the stuff you say on this thread monkaHmm worthy. Such as; people wanting SCH/AST to be more "op" than WHM (no we just want to be able to play the class without necking ourselves). WHM has always been uncontested, NUMERO UNO, THE BEST, at raw healing. It honestly just sounds like you've got an inferiority complex regarding this whole situation between AST + SCH vs. WHM. If you honestly think that WHM has ever had issues with MP and it was only recently fixed with 5.0, you're part of the population that is overly dependent on Cure III (:
Thanks for coming to my TED talk!

Yep healer is stressful.. but I think the tank is more stressful xD
Wow, I would love to tell you what I think you are, but that would get me banned unfortunately. So let's see.Nobody is saying that they need/want heals like WHM lmao. Absolutely no one. You don't even have AST leveled enough to even comprehend the issues the class has as of right now lol. I don't think you understand how bad the other two healers have it to where some of us want to stick our heads in ovens because SE just stripped AST/SCH of their core identities + introduced a crap mechanic (Play). I find some of the stuff you say on this thread monkaHmm worthy. Such as; people wanting SCH/AST to be more "op" than WHM (no we just want to be able to play the class without necking ourselves). WHM has always been uncontested, NUMERO UNO, THE BEST, at raw healing. It honestly just sounds like you've got an inferiority complex regarding this whole situation between AST + SCH vs. WHM. If you honestly think that WHM has ever had issues with MP and it was only recently fixed with 5.0, you're part of the population that is overly dependent on Cure III (:
Thanks for coming to my TED talk!
I'm not talking about a time span of a few months, or even two years. I'm talking about the history of WHM ever since 2.0. Since back then, people demanded to get what WHM had, or better stuff. In ARR, SCHs wanted a big AoE heal, some even calling for one far superior to even Cure III. In HW, people wanted the range of Medica II, as well as Assize; they didn't even bother to look at WHM's deficits, which was MP management and lack of raid utility (oh, guess what, the latter still wasn't addressed at all!). In StB, they wanted an equivalent of Thin Air, which was the first time EVER WHM didn't need outside support to keep going because they finally weren't MP starved anymore. It didn't help us of course, because it was the only thing we got. Everything else was meh or even horrible (Hello, Lily System and especially Secret of the Lily II).
You don't get WHM at all, either. You obviously got no clue what the job went through over the years, you have no clue what it was in the past, you got no clue what its problems are. It has been surpassed in raw healing by SCH and also AST years ago. Oh, so it can spam big AoE heals? What the f*ck is that worth when it's not needed? Right, nothing. Also, did you even look at some of the stuff you got in 4.0 as AST? Did you see what Earthly Star was? Did you see what buffs you got over the span of the expansion, to the point were WHM got obsolete yet again, like at the end of 3.0 (though, thankfully, not quite as horribly as back then...).
Oh, so you suffered from getting stuff taken from you? Don't make me LAUGH. WHM lost its identity when AST came out, since AST was a very, VERY bad and lazy copy-paste job of it when it got introduced, and continues to be a copycat for a big part. You lost some skills? WHM lost about half their skill bar in StB to the job system/had stuff erased permanently.
You are so ignorant it hurts. As Ftail said, WHM got neglected for so long, even outright laughed at by the devs, that it shouldn't come as a surprise to you that we are at the end of our line by now... at least if you had a single clue of what you are talking about. Come back to me when you actually know the history behind the job. Come back to me when you know what WHM had been once.
Grow up.
WHM was always a straight forward, reactive healer, and a progression king with strong crowd control in 4 man dungeons. On par with sch and astro and less complex to play.
The only downside to WHM I saw I saw was If I queued 8 man content with it I ran the risk of being paired up with another White Mage thus no party shield. Thats an easy fix on Duty Finder
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