The finalized 5.0 healer changes revealed (links)

[Ilenya]

I wondering, why Whm didn't get a Lily consuming dps spell. Transcendent Afflatus: Adds a Blood Lily to the Healing Gauge that blooms after three uses of Afflatus Solace or Afflatus Rapture.
There is not always a use for healing. Getting up the Blood Lily for Afflatus Misery can result in useless overheal.

Probably the same reason SCH lost our DPS skills from Aetherflow. Devs don't want us to have them.

[Ilenya]

I didn't feel like listing out every GCD heal since since I was mainly pointing out that GCD heals are the only ones affected.

Since Dissipation puts the Fairy away … Of course the Fairy doesn't benefit?

My point is that when using our respective Healing Potency boost, only the GCD heals are affected. As such, ALL Healers are impacted if the buff doesn't get extended to Abilities. Some more than others and I never said otherwise.
Dissipation is underpowered in general because it shunts the Fairy away. Being locked out of Fairy Healing is more detrimental than the potency buff covers. Especially in ShB with so much of the new stuff being built around the Fairy.

I kinda forgot about it taking away the faerie, to be fair, because that wasn't what I was looking for at the time and I never use the skill anyways.

I was just pointing out how...Completely underwhelming the skill was as a whole, and your initial comment made it seem to me that you were saying that it was okay because AST and WHM (Who have more GCD heals) have the same effect.

And yes, I do think 15 seconds of crit adlo, even with the change to how it works, would be busted. I would love every second of it, mind you, but you can't say that isn't busted.

[Sieben79]

But we have also other healing abilitys like Tetra, Bene, Regen, Asylum, Assize or Medica 2. Either I use up a lily everytimes it pops or I hold them and use them 3 times for a full Blood Lily. Or maybe two in a row. Or I have a full Blood Lily reserved and three normals so using Misery, use the 3 Lily up and use Misery again. Would be a waste to not use a 900 potency attack.

[Ilenya]

But we have also other healing abilitys like Tetra, Bene, Regen, Asylum, Assize or Medica 2. Either I use up a lily everytimes it pops or I hold them and use them 3 times for a full Blood Lily. Or maybe two in a row. Or I have a full Blood Lily reserved and three normals so using Misery, use the 3 Lily up and use Misery again. Would be a waste to not use a 900 potency attack.

SCH have to use Aetherflow to build up our Faerie Gauge to use skills, and everything involved with it is healing related now. The fact that WHM builds up to a DPS skill is almost surprising at this point.

[Sylve]

I kinda forgot about it taking away the faerie, to be fair, because that wasn't what I was looking for at the time and I never use the skill anyways.

I was just pointing out how...Completely underwhelming the skill was as a whole, and your initial comment made it seem to me that you were saying that it was okay because AST and WHM (Who have more GCD heals) have the same effect.

And yes, I do think 15 seconds of crit adlo, even with the change to how it works, would be busted. I would love every second of it, mind you, but you can't say that isn't busted.

Well I'm not sure i'd call it broken. The effects on Temperance and Neutral Sect are absurdly good too. If we see more raidwides like Tumult (continuous blasts of damage), SCH would get left behind hard by the other 2 because it'd have no way to deal with rapid incoming AoEs unless it blows all its MP on Succors since we only get 1 Indom. Or even rapid single target busters.
SCH is all about planning when and where to utilize its stuff, Recitation would act almost like a "Plan B: Sh!t has hit the fan" button. It'd be pretty flavorful.

But we have also other healing abilitys like Tetra, Bene, Regen, Asylum, Assize or Medica 2. Either I use up a lily everytimes it pops or I hold them and use them 3 times for a full Blood Lily. Or maybe two in a row. Or I have a full Blood Lily reserved and three normals so using Misery, use the 3 Lily up and use Misery again. Would be a waste to not use a 900 potency attack.

Well then. Its almost like we have some flexibility in how we want to heal people.

[Sieben79]

I'll see it during the weekend if the healers need to heal more than usual. But for now I think Whm kit is overbloated with the two Lily consuming spells that do what the older skills already did. No costs, instant and limited skills, sure nice to have but necessary? Let's see^^

[Ilenya]

I'll see it during the weekend if the healers need to heal more than usual. But for now I think Whm kit is overbloated with the two Lily consuming spells that do what the older skills already did. No costs, instant and limited skills, sure nice to have but necessary? Let's see^^

No, frankly, they should have been oGCD, in my opinion, but whatever.

[Fyce]

I wondering, why Whm didn't get a Lily consuming dps spell. Transcendent Afflatus: Adds a Blood Lily to the Healing Gauge that blooms after three uses of Afflatus Solace or Afflatus Rapture.
There is not always a use for healing. Getting up the Blood Lily for Afflatus Misery can result in useless overheal.

You don't want to build up for Afflatus Misery on purpose though. The whole thing cost 4 GCDs for 900 potency, which could be spent on 4 Glares for 1200 potency total instead.
So, unlike SCH, you don't want to use Afflatus Rapture and Solace for nothing just to get the Blood Lily. (Except during times where you can't interact with the boss and are about to lose a Lily. And also for AoE.)

My very limited understanding is that its basically a way to be DPS neutral for WHM, they sacrifice some dps time for healing then get the dps back with Afflatus Misery later on.

Pretty much, yeah. It allows WHM to spend some GCD on healing without feeling that they are losing a lot of DPS doing so. I think it's a good alternative to the overload of oGCDs that has been going on since Heavensward, and that they should go forward on that path for 6.0 and try to get something similar to other healers. Or at least something that achieve the same feeling, without having to sacrifice stuff like Energy Drain in the process.

[Sieben79]

You don't want to build up for Afflatus Misery on purpose though. The whole thing cost 4 GCDs for 900 potency, which could be spent on 4 Glares for 1200 potency total instead.
So, unlike SCH, you don't want to use Afflatus Rapture and Solace for nothing just to get the Blood Lily. (Except during times where you can't interact with the boss and are about to lose a Lily. And also for AoE.)

Ok, that I feel is valid.

[Dualblade]

You don't want to build up for Afflatus Misery on purpose though. The whole thing cost 4 GCDs for 900 potency, which could be spent on 4 Glares for 1200 potency total instead.
So, unlike SCH, you don't want to use Afflatus Rapture and Solace for nothing just to get the Blood Lily. (Except during times where you can't interact with the boss and are about to lose a Lily. And also for AoE.)

My very limited understanding is that its basically a way to be DPS neutral for WHM, they sacrifice some dps time for healing then get the dps back with Afflatus Misery later on.