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    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    The budget is. The technology is not. It's almost 2020 and CGI still doesn't look convincing. All it takes is one trip to the movie theater and a new release by Marvel to see that the movies still look like video games.
    Uh, no? Are you still watching super hero movies from the early 2000s or something? Marvel CGI is the furthest thing from unconvincing: it is really, really good. I don't know how you can look at something like, Rocket Racoon, and say, "That really doesn't look like a talking racoon to me." I mean, if you want to stay within the genre (epic fantasy), Game of Thrones always looked stunning on a TV budget. Same goes for Chronicles of Shannara (and that on a considerably lesser budget).

    I don't know man. We must be looking at two different things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Uh, no? Are you still watching super hero movies from the early 2000s or something? Marvel CGI is the furthest thing from unconvincing: it is really, really good. I don't know how you can look at something like, Rocket Racoon, and say, "That really doesn't look like a talking racoon to me." I mean, if you want to stay within the genre (epic fantasy), Game of Thrones always looked stunning on a TV budget. Same goes for Chronicles of Shannara (and that on a considerably lesser budget).

    I don't know man. We must be looking at two different things.
    One look. ONE LOOK...at The Avengers. I'll admit that Marvel movies are fun to watch, but I would be lying if I said I thought they look good. They don't. They look like they're trying to be real and failed miserably at it. It would be better to just not try to be realistic in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    One look. ONE LOOK...at The Avengers. I'll admit that Marvel movies are fun to watch, but I would be lying if I said I thought they look good. They don't. They look like they're trying to be real and failed miserably at it. It would be better to just not try to be realistic in the first place.
    Ah, right. All four Avengers movies are so visually terrible that they are four of the top ten grossing movies of all time. Come on, man. If you don't think Marvel Studios CGI looks good, there will be no pleasing you.

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    It's reasons like this that got us that horrible sonic design... but sure... anime/cartoons need to be in live action now. :c - Not agreed.-
    This reasoning is so problematic. Exceptions do not make the rule. Following your logic, the existence of one bad live action movie means the entire industry should be scrapped. Actually, I can extend this reasoning to this game: FF XIV 1.0 was so terrible, S-E should have just canned FF XIV and never made another online game ever again. Because XIV 1.0 was so terrible.

    Yeah, that logic is real fun, isn't it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Come on, man. If you don't think Marvel Studios CGI looks good, there will be no pleasing you.
    Using CGI in live action is just asking for garbage. The concept itself is flawed - you're mixing real, actual imagery with stuff rendered via a computer. No matter how hard they try, the stuff they generate will never look the same as how it would look if those scenes were actually real.

    Either make it real or make it CGI, but don't mix them. Mixing them looks terrible. It would make way more sense to just take that art style for the menu videos and use that. It looks good, isn't overly anime-ish, and the quality levels are consistent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    Using CGI in live action is just asking for garbage. The concept itself is flawed - you're mixing real, actual imagery with stuff rendered via a computer. No matter how hard they try, the stuff they generate will never look the same as how it would look if those scenes were actually real.

    Either make it real or make it CGI, but don't mix them. Mixing them looks terrible. It would make way more sense to just take that art style for the menu videos and use that. It looks good, isn't overly anime-ish, and the quality levels are consistent.
    Well that explains why you have a problem with it. You are working off a premise of, "real world and CGI will never look good." Which means you have already judged the work before you see it in the first place. Most of us do not work off that premise, and those of us that don't, we see how far CGI has come and how good Marvel's take on it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Well that explains why you have a problem with it. You are working off a premise of, "real world and CGI will never look good." Which means you have already judged the work before you see it in the first place. Most of us do not work off that premise, and those of us that don't, we see how far CGI has come and how good Marvel's take on it is.
    I've seen my fair share of movies with CGI. The visuals are always the parts of the movies I like the least. The first scene that comes to my mind is when I was watching Infinity War. They went to some kind of mining city, and I almost puked at the background. It was totally green-screened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Well that explains why you have a problem with it. You are working off a premise of, "real world and CGI will never look good." Which means you have already judged the work before you see it in the first place.
    We've already seen the real world and CGI mixing. $25 million dollars it cost to CGI an upper lip and this was the result.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    We've already seen the real world and CGI mixing. $25 million dollars it cost to CGI an upper lip and this was the result.



    Did you see the infinitely better work a college kid did on that for fun as a side project?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    Ah, right. All four Avengers movies are so visually terrible that they are four of the top ten grossing movies of all time. Come on, man. If you don't think Marvel Studios CGI looks good, there will be no pleasing you.



    This reasoning is so problematic. Exceptions do not make the rule. Following your logic, the existence of one bad live action movie means the entire industry should be scrapped. Actually, I can extend this reasoning to this game: FF XIV 1.0 was so terrible, S-E should have just canned FF XIV and never made another online game ever again. Because XIV 1.0 was so terrible.

    Yeah, that logic is real fun, isn't it?
    Actually mine example is the norm... what they did to sonic is what companies do ALL the time.. that's why noone has any hope it'll be good off the bat. Pikachu is the one that broke the rule.... And it doesn't look like XIV will do that. It looks like more of the same.. which is bad. :C
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