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    The biggest issue is coordinating CC actions with your party. It's not so bad in niche situations where you need to Silence or Stun a certain enemy (i.e. some savage content) because usually players know how to handle these kinds of mechs, but in causal content it can be kinda difficult. You cast Sleep or Bind on a group of enemies to help kill them, nope one of your teammates wants to hit them thus removing the effect. CC can be fun but it's just not fit for purpose in casual content, tends to suit PvP environments more.
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    The biggest issue is coordinating CC actions with your party. It's not so bad in niche situations where you need to Silence or Stun a certain enemy (i.e. some savage content) because usually players know how to handle these kinds of mechs, but in causal content it can be kinda difficult. You cast Sleep or Bind on a group of enemies to help kill them, nope one of your teammates wants to hit them thus removing the effect. CC can be fun but it's just not fit for purpose in casual content, tends to suit PvP environments more.
    I've observed this to be false.

    If noobs on an EQ progression server can play a chanter properly. Applying CC in FFXIV would be easy.

    We don't need to CC here. In fact tanks can not only survive every mob hitting them from a pulled group, but 2-3 or more groups. Because of that, CC has no function here. But if the mobs hit harder or had effects that could cause issues, then CC would be used more commonly.

    I get it. Our experiences in PUGs make it seem like people are dumb. They're not. they're complacent. That's why they make mistakes. They do the minimum to complete the content. If the minimum has them doing CC, they WILL do it. They will still get through stuff.
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    I've observed this to be false.

    If noobs on an EQ progression server can play a chanter properly. Applying CC in FFXIV would be easy.
    To be fair, part of that is because the consequences for NOT playing an enchanter properly are pretty severe. And non-enchanter group members also very quickly find out why it's a bad idea to break a mez. We used to Sleep/Repose in earlier ARR because we didn't have the ilevel to cheese those mechanics. Just like you did NOT hit a mezzed mob in EQ, you did NOT wake up the big dragon in Brayflox. Because the consequences for doing so when that tactic was popular were severe enough to serve as a deterrent.

    So CC wouldn't be quite as easy to implement, since you need that consequence to make it a required function.
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