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    redheadturk's Avatar
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    Nabriales Majestic
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    Better idea, remove the grandfathering that lets older players *keep* the entire wards they've purchased to free up more houses, keep the one house per server rule in place, and remove the random timers altogether.
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    Talico Surflame
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    Better idea, remove the grandfathering that lets older players *keep* the entire wards they've purchased to free up more houses, keep the one house per server rule in place, and remove the random timers altogether.
    That would be logical.

    I love this game but honestly when it comes to purchasing a house it feels like they took advice from a certain company that starts with a B and has a game that contains 3 letters the first starting with a W the second being a O and the third being a W. It just kinda reeks of the RNG vibe.
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    M'leineya Leoh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolien View Post
    That would be logical.

    I love this game but honestly when it comes to purchasing a house it feels like they took advice from a certain company that starts with a B and has a game that contains 3 letters the first starting with a W the second being a O and the third being a W. It just kinda reeks of the RNG vibe.
    Only that Blizzard doesn't have limited housing that works in the favour of people already owning a house and literally pooping on the heads of newer players and those who have been trying for years to purchase a house. I forget which game gave Yoshi the idea of limited housing but it was a really poopy and terribly unfair idea since housing is required for certain areas of the game and not just something pretty to look at and show all your mates your creativity skills.
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    R'ahlin Taka
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    since housing is required for certain areas of the game
    Hold the phone. Housing is required for certain areas of the game? I would assume you mean the Voyage system?

    You know. The same Voyage System you can use at the Foundation Airship dock? (Not the Submarine one, so I'll concede that one)
    The same system that, to my knowledge, is still there for all to use, regardless of FC affiliation?

    Just curious. If it's not this system, then please provide context. Because that's the only one that jumps out to me.

    Regardless. You guys probably need to get it through your head.

    1) The Grandfathered players keep their stuff. SE is not going to touch them in any capacity because they are well within their right to keep it. Because they used the systems they had at the time.

    2) There's not going to be two different types of housing. Nor do I believe they would strip out the housing system already in place to add a new one. They'll keep adding onto the Ward system, since it works.

    3) Housing is not MEANT for everyone. Everyone has a chance to get a house and if you do, congrats. if you don't, then keep trying or settle for an apartment. That's what they are there for.

    4) the "RNG timer" everyone seems to communally despise is actually working in your favor. Without it, you wouldn't see any open plots at all, because all the botters would snatch them up in seconds. Demanding it to be gone is actively shooting yourself in the foot.

    As someone who had camped for months on end and finally got a house, I can tell you that it's possible. If you're getting far too annoyed to the point of "crying for a fix" on the forums.. Then take a step back. Cool off. Find something else to do and vent the frustration.

    There'll always be more plots tomorrow. Always more chances. Can't much ask for more.

    None of this "Well, other games do it better than ffxiv so that is clearly reason!" either. Some games certainly do things better than FFXIV. But plenty of games do things a LOT worse. If you're going to use something to this effect as your defense. Then go play that game and quit crying, since it's clear "That game" you so coincidentally refuse to give source or proof to is more your style.
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    Last edited by Kenky; 08-28-2019 at 12:05 PM.

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    Edax Royeaux
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    Leviathan
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    Better idea, remove the grandfathering that lets older players *keep* the entire wards they've purchased to free up more houses, keep the one house per server rule in place, and remove the random timers altogether.
    That would be ex post facto enforcement, punishing players who were playing within the rules at the time by destroying all their hard work. I admit I think it's horrible that some players can own so many homes, but they were within their rights to do it at the time.
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    Moonsugar Skooma
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    That would be ex post facto enforcement, punishing players who were playing within the rules at the time by destroying all their hard work. I admit I think it's horrible that some players can own so many homes, but they were within their rights to do it at the time.
    I don't believe it would be a punishment. Is it a punishment when your armor needs upgrading when an expansion comes out and more levels are added? After all the hard work in raids spent on gear you now need to upgrade? I don't think so. I think limiting all accounts to one private and one FC house is a great idea. ( Accounts because ..alts!) Return their gil for the homes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PopRocks View Post
    I don't believe it would be a punishment. Is it a punishment when your armor needs upgrading when an expansion comes out and more levels are added? After all the hard work in raids spent on gear you now need to upgrade? I don't think so. I think limiting all accounts to one private and one FC house is a great idea. ( Accounts because ..alts!) Return their gil for the homes.
    The game doesn't take your armor away so your example doesn't work. If the game took away my Deltascape armor sets even though I followed all the rules and spent months trying to earn the components, then I'd be extremely angry. So I would believe it would be a punishment if the game has to forcibly take away your work.
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Quote Originally Posted by PopRocks View Post
    I don't believe it would be a punishment. Is it a punishment when your armor needs upgrading when an expansion comes out and more levels are added? After all the hard work in raids spent on gear you now need to upgrade? I don't think so. I think limiting all accounts to one private and one FC house is a great idea. ( Accounts because ..alts!) Return their gil for the homes.
    FC houses cant be restricted to one house per account. FC houses are tied to the FC not the purchaser. The ownership of a FC house does not work the same way a personal house does. Joe blow level 1 sprout who joined the game an hour ago, can be given permission to buy their FC a house.

    Personal house purchase requirements:

    Level 50+
    Second Lt in your GC
    MSQ progression must be at specified point


    Free company house purchase requirement:

    Have Free company rank 6
    Be the leader of said FC or have the FC permission to purchase property.
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    Last edited by NanaWiloh; 09-17-2019 at 12:45 AM.
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