Moogle Treasure Trove rewards

[WindyGamer]

Duty panel does not show that MSRoulette gives tomes, so who knew?

Yes, you can get the dire wolf after a few weeks [2, 3, 4? Not sure. Not done it yet.] of grinding rep with Ixtal. Or a day of grinding CM. And I will grind through the work to get the manta ray. That's fair.

So the consensus is that the rewards are great? That all makes sense? That future events should be set up this way?

Well, for me, this is on the edge of not being worth my time. And i tried to get the car, and it was surely not worth my time when I failed twice on the duty instance quest with a nicely geared 60+ character. So I never got to the point of figuring out how to grind 2000000000000000000000 or however many MGP it was.

I was shocked to find that "RAIDING" for 2 tomes is a faster means of getting these if you are end game geared. I would have thought that RAIDs were harder and longer than dungeons and that the rules, as is pointed out for grinding CM etc, state that undersized parties achieve no tomes. So, surprise, surprise, the event is favoring end-game RAIDING guilds. Cool, I guess.

Personally, my preference would have been a different approach for an event when the point of an event is to psych folks for an upcoming expansion rather than the grind built into the game for a valuable reward, like a Rep mount. In my view, this event misses the mark regarding psyching folks up. Grinding a very small number of different events, and the mismatch in time spent vs rewards is not a psych for me. But hey. That's just me. To each his own.

One more trip through CM for today... See you on the First. May you walk in the light [dark] of the crystal.

[Fawkes]

I haven't bothered with this event because I didn't want to burn myself out right before the expansion.

But I agree that it doesn't seem that great.

[Nicodemus_Mercy]

Tam-Tara isn't 40 minutes to clear. Neither is Stone Vigil for that matter.

Tam-Tara can actually go really fast if you have/are a tank who does big pulls. I got the 30 I needed for the one thing I wanted from the vendor just by doing like 10 of them a day. I could have done more in a day but it does get tiring seeing the same instance and pulls over and over. It's not exactly super fun or engaging but farming Tam-Tara for singles isn't horrible. I imagine that the CT raids are the faster way to accrue them but I was looking for more "ease to acquire" rather than "speed to acquire".

I did a few Stone Vigils as WHM with my squadron to get some when I wanted a change of pace and to half pay attention and it did not take 40 min... more like 20 min and that was with me tabbing out to web surf after tossing a regen on my tank while she was fighting and my two OP archers were pew pewing. Sure it was super fast but it wasn't 40 minutes either.

In any case, in 3 days I got the one thing I wanted and I'm good to go now.

[Seraphor]

Duty panel does not show that MSRoulette gives tomes, so who knew?

All Roulettes provide their advertised rewards, plus the rewards for the individual duty you load into.
So anything listed on the MSQ Duty Roulette panel, plus anything mentioned on either Meridianum or Praetorium, depending on which you get.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

(1) Low level players are at a significant disadvantage since they can only get one tome per 40 or so minutes by doing the low level dungeons. (...) Stone Vigil or other mid level dungeons take 40 or so minutes to complete (...) I suspect, but have not verified, that all light party dungeons are designed to take between 30 and 40 minutes by a competent party.]

Is this with waiting time for the dungeon to pop up? If not, divide it by half. I've never seen Protect or any buff-food running out of time while leveling in any of those dungeons. Even with a bad party. Had a smooth run in Stone Vigil just yesterday and it took us maybe 15 minutes (and a bad one a few days ago, but it was still done under half an hour).

What is the reason that the MS Roulette does not reward tomes?

Wait, what? Of course it does! I run it nearly daily because of the event (and for leveling machinist at the moment)

Given all this, all players with access to a 50+ job have only one viable option: spam CM.

No, spam syrcus tower.

Also, most of the rewards are level 50+ (and even some level 60) items so it's not aimed for low level chars. I think it's just a nice way to get a few things you might be still missing from content you may usually not want to do or may not find a party for (like diadem, coils of bahamut or some old beast tribes).

Personally, I just got a few things I was still missing from this event:
- "Answers"
- Magic Bucket
- Wind-up Calofisteri


Edit:

I was shocked to find that "RAIDING" for 2 tomes is a faster means of getting these if you are end game geared. I would have thought that RAIDs were harder and longer than dungeons and that the rules, as is pointed out for grinding CM etc, state that undersized parties achieve no tomes. So, surprise, surprise, the event is favoring end-game RAIDING guilds. Cool, I guess.

"Ally-Raids" are something difference than what most people mean if they are talking about RAIDING [=latest Savage-Content or Ultimate]. 1) Ally-Raids are still casual content and 2) Level 50 Ally-Raids have nothing to do with "End-Game". Even synced back to Level 50 your gear is still so overpowered that most runs are just burn through the bosses with no difficult at all (well, LotA and WoD may still cause some wipes if the groups ignore mechanics, but nevermind). Also you don't need a guild for that, again, it's very casual and very doable in PF.

[MistakeNot]

(2) Mid level dungeons are no better. Stone Vigil or other mid level dungeons take 40 or so minutes to complete - I'm sure you have a better timing that I do - but only reward one tome. [ I suspect, but have not verified, that all light party dungeons are designed to take between 30 and 40 minutes by a competent party.]

Actually all the 4-man dungeons usually take more like 20-30 minutes to run. If it takes 40 minutes to go through one of them, either the group is taking it slow and easy and checking out absolutely every optional room, or someone is doing something wrong.

[silverlunarfox]

pretty sure the goal of this event is to give players fast pops for the crystal tower since it's part of them shadowbringers main story.

This to be honest. It also brought back in alot of people who had taken a break prior which really helped the queues pop in content. While its a bit of a grind, I don't think it shouldve been any other way.

[StouterTaru]

(3) for 50+ players, both CM and TP reward 3 tomes, but TP takes almost an hour, so running that for tomes makes no sense. Also, I'm not clear that the MS Roulette rewards tomes so you can't, even once a day, get advanced XP and tomes at the same time. Since TP takes twice as long, shouldn't it reward twice as many Moogle Tomes? What is the reason that the MS Roulette does not reward tomes?

I've been doing a daily MSQ Roulette and Alliance Raid Roulette (queued up with ~73 ilvl gear to narrow it to CT and ST). It's 5 irregular tomes and a ton of Poetics.

[Joven]

I think all they needed to do was either increase the number of dungeons that dropped the tomestones for more variety or increase the number of tomestones the current dungeons drop by at least half. If Copperbell drops one tomestone make it 2 for a synced party and 1 for an unsynced run. Same with the others. Praetorium and Castrum should offer at least 5-6 per run to entice more people to slog through them. 2-3 for unsyncing them.

[Seraphor]

I think all they needed to do was either increase the number of dungeons that dropped the tomestones for more variety or increase the number of tomestones the current dungeons drop by at least half. If Copperbell drops one tomestone make it 2 for a synced party and 1 for an unsynced run. Same with the others. Praetorium and Castrum should offer at least 5-6 per run to entice more people to slog through them. 2-3 for unsyncing them.

Somewhat agreed. I think the 1, 2 and 3 amounts just don't balance well with the time investment.
I think 2 for dungeons, 3 for Alliance raids, 4 for castrum and 5 for praetorium would be about right.

Prizes might need to be slightly increased, but not by the same factor.