Going to the same route as WoW. The game is TOO easy

[Aurelius2625]

But it's...not though?

If Larboard cast finishes, and a thing flashes on the left and you get hit... you know that after that, if Larboard is charging up, something is going to hit on the...left? Where the giant orange cleave was? It's not useless because it tells you where the attack hit and how big the attack was, so that NEXT time, you can dodge it.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Some people have more difficulty staying on top of that and knowing whether to left/right than others. You can blame it on their "ability to reason" or spatial awareness or whatever you like.

But all that wasn't my point anyway. All I was saying is that the ground telegraph is pretty much useless when it's only there for a fraction of a second.

Its a halfway point between "too much warning" and "no aoe marker a la savage"

What they are trying to do is work in harder tells, making people pay attention to the moves themselves rather than the glowy orange don't stand here thing.

[Fynlar]

But it's...not though?

If Larboard cast finishes, and a thing flashes on the left and you get hit... you know that after that, if Larboard is charging up, something is going to hit on the...left? Where the giant orange cleave was? It's not useless because it tells you where the attack hit and how big the attack was, so that NEXT time, you can dodge it.

There is a big laser and an explosion in the area that was hit. It's kinda obvious at that point where the attack hit. No fake "telegraph" needed.

Its a halfway point between "too much warning" and "no aoe marker a la savage"

What they are trying to do is work in harder tells, making people pay attention to the moves themselves rather than the glowy orange don't stand here thing.

Then the glowy orange things should just not be there at all. Don't make people think they can watch out for telegraphs that aren't really telegraphs.

It isn't really a "in between" thing; it basically is the same as savage.

[Shurrikhan]

I have literally NO IDEA what the Tsunami Debuff is called in Chaos/O9 but I know that if I get a blue thing on me, I will have a water donut around me when the thing ticks down.

This actually kind of makes me wish we could have a second option for our (de)buff display, with the full name of the debuff written above its duration bar, icon on the left, and a final numeric display timer on the right of the bar. That way when someone says "Watch out for <Something by name, even though we can only ever see the image unless we're both on PC and have the time to mouse over our every debuff until we find it>"... we can.

[Mistyregions]

There is a big laser and an explosion in the area that was hit. It's kinda obvious at that point where the attack hit. No fake "telegraph" needed.

Then the glowy orange things should just not be there at all. Don't make people think they can watch out for telegraphs that aren't really telegraphs.

It isn't really a "in between" thing; it basically is the same as savage.

It's not so much a fake telegraph, its showing you a area it's going to effect. So next time you see "larboard" you know bow big the area of effect is. If the just did "larboard" and things exploded no one would know the area that is exploding it not ment to be a warning marker after you figure the mechanic out the first time. I repeat it is for people doing it blind progression. After that you watch the cast bar and move accordingly, period there is no room for interpretation.

This really is just a discussion on who has reasoning and critical thinking skills. Some don't, some do.

Some don't pull out when they should, some wear condoms. It's all relative to the type of people who play. Aka some are mentally hindered.

[Fynlar]

It's not so much a fake telegraph, its showing you a area it's going to effect. So next time you see "larboard" you know bow big the area of effect is.

Again (sigh), you can pretty much see the affected area when the attack is being executed. It's rather hard to miss Omega's laser and the ensuing explosion, and the fact that anyone that was in it and did not move out of it before the charge bar filled just took a big hit and a vuln stack.

Therefore the fake telegraph is not needed, and is presumably only meant to get people who somehow don't realize this to try to sound all smart saying "see look guys, normal mode even gives you a telegraph; see how much easier this mechanic is compared to savage??"

[Driavna]

How is this Omega thingy a big deal? I mean, I understand the confusion/surprise the first time around, but after that? They are just words, you can mentally assign them whatever meaning you want.

[Nariel]

Again (sigh), you can pretty much see the affected area when the attack is being executed. It's rather hard to miss Omega's laser and the ensuing explosion, and the fact that anyone that was in it and did not move out of it before the charge bar filled just took a big hit and a vuln stack.

Therefore the fake telegraph is not needed, and is presumably only meant to get people who somehow don't realize this to try to sound all smart saying "see look guys, normal mode even gives you a telegraph; see how much easier this mechanic is compared to savage??"

I'd agree if estimating an area of effect with only the animation shown was actualy accurate, cause its not and I'm not even talking about serveur latency.

There's a huge difference for some jobs between moving two step on the left and running 20 meters to safety "to be sure".

[Seraphor]

Maybe it’s just me, but I find there’s definitely something about Starboard/Larboard that’s more difficult to reconcile mentally.
Tsukiyomi’s Bright/Dark blade went in far easier, thanks to Bright=Right, and now I automatically, reflexively recognise Dark as Left.
But this hasn’t happened for me with Larboard, I still need to consciously think “L for Left” instead of it being a reflex. Or Lardboard=Port, because I believe Port and Starboard would make far more sense to me personally.
It’s probably the length of the word. Left/Dark/Port are all 4 letter words, while Right/Bright/Starboard stand out as longer words. It’s much easier to take a mental snapshot of an entire word, than it is to pick out one letter in it.

[Misutoraru]

Maybe it’s just me, but I find there’s definitely something about Starboard/Larboard that’s more difficult to reconcile mentally.
Tsukiyomi’s Bright/Dark blade went in far easier, thanks to Bright=Right, and now I automatically, reflexively recognise Dark as Left.
But this hasn’t happened for me with Larboard, I still need to consciously think “L for Left” instead of it being a reflex. Or Lardboard=Port, because I believe Port and Starboard would make far more sense to me personally.
It’s probably the length of the word. Left/Dark/Port are all 4 letter words, while Right/Bright/Starboard stand out as longer words. It’s much easier to take a mental snapshot of an entire word, than it is to pick out one letter in it.

You are not alone, some ppl like me memories mechanic by words. I keep getting hit by Larboard in my first run even I read the guide first, but I never get hit by Mustadio even going in blind. We use left and right all the time, and we use starboard and port to some extend, we are familiar with those words. Hence it will be easier to operate our brain with those word.
We could get use to Larboard, but it really took me 4 run to completely avoid it.
It is just different ppl have different way of recognised thing