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    Quote Originally Posted by gman1311 View Post
    I never understood the hate for Astro’s new card system. Half the cards are situational at best and the other half were simply better.
    Except, apart from Spire, the situational ones in their given situation were... the highest value cards. Bole can be spriggin' OP, mate, and when you need Mana, you need Mana.

    And unless they're really milking the multi-DoT capabilities or oGCD burst damage (rather than a durationed buff burst window), Arrow is of nearly as much bonus to quite a few jobs. And it actually improves heals, where Balance cannot.

    But, sure, instead of simply taking the small step to balance said cards and finally deal with 4-year oversights like random shorter durations... let's just given them all roughly the value of Spear or less. Now you can get that sub-optimal draw all the time! Just don't forget to have at least one melee and one ranged DPS in your every dungeon run!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    one melee and one ranged DPS in your every dungeon run!
    Tank.

    You.

    Done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Tank.

    You.

    Done.
    That "solution" makes as much sense as giving your Balance card to the grey-parsing NIN instead of your top percentile BLM.

    You have a tool for further tDPS. It only does as much as 6% of that target's DPS. Give it to a capable DPS, not the tank or self.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    That "solution" makes as much sense as giving your Balance card to the grey-parsing NIN instead of your top percentile BLM.

    You have a tool for further tDPS. It only does as much as 6% of that target's DPS. Give it to a capable DPS, not the tank or self.
    6% of 6,000 is better than 3% of 9,000. In fact, 6% of 4,000 is only slightly less than 3% of 9,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    6% of 6,000 is better than 3% of 9,000. In fact, 6% of 4,000 is only slightly less than 3% of 9,000.
    Is it 6% on tanks though? The tool tip says "Melee DPS", not "Melee job", pretty sure the full 6% values are only applied on DPS jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Satarn View Post
    Is it 6% on tanks though? The tool tip says "Melee DPS", not "Melee job", pretty sure the full 6% values are only applied on DPS jobs.


    Seems to imply that the tanks/other healers will only get the reduced value?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    6% of 6,000 is better than 3% of 9,000. In fact, 6% of 4,000 is only slightly less than 3% of 9,000.
    Sure. Except you're still balanced around that ~540 added tDPS over Card duration regardless, which you will not have without an appropriate card recipient. Having someone to put the card on =/= getting the full value out of your cards.

    EDIT: Nevermind, you literally can't get the 6% on a Tank or Healer anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Sure. Except you're still balanced around that ~540 added tDPS over Card duration regardless, which you will not have without an appropriate card recipient. Having someone to put the card on =/= getting the full value out of your cards.

    EDIT: Nevermind, you literally can't get the 6% on a Tank or Healer anyways.
    I was told the tooltips vary between the languages, but we'll find out soon enough.
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