Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[zeylos]

This is what I meant by masculine female hrotgar, and I'd love them to be like this
(credits to Roda, on the forums <3)

[Senn]

I was wondering what kind of food viera would eat since they're based on rabbits. I was thinking they would be vegan or something, but it turns out some rabbits can eat meat. Some are even cannibals.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsEcr4HXTOc

So yeah, that was interesting...

[Gwenorai]

Thought about it myself, part of me wants them to be like Bosmer. Bosmer don't eat vegetation - at least those who follow the Greenpact don't. Greenpact is something that is basically very similar to the Green Word that Viera follow in protecting the wood. So, does make it little sense for them to not damage the wood/jungle and nurture it - and that includes not damaging it/eating it. Bosmer are also cannibalistic xD

[Senn]

...

Dude what if viera are cannibals

[Roda]

Female au ra should've gotten either female higlander or female roegadyn build. Female hrotgar should look either like this:


or like this imo:


Charr is an amazing beastial race, better than the hrotgar race imo (because of 4 legged walk, more unique faces, more bestial appearance etc) but what I like the most about them is that there's close to no sexual dysphormism. This also helps them with resources

Fun fact! Charr actually have a whole bunch of sexual dimorphism! (and It's my favorite form of fantasy sexual dimorphism anywhere) It's just not designed around making the females look sexier to (straight) human males. It's designed around making the males look sexier to (straight) charr females! While the females' bodies are sleek and streamlined, their horns are simple and smooth, and their canines are long, but not in the way, the males on the other hand are jagged and bulky, their horns are HUGE and gnarled, and their mouths are so full of jagged tusks they can barely close them! All brutal and scary characteristics that don't actually have any real functional use outside of display, and bonus points is that the males are allowed to look brutal and cool while the females are also just as brutal and cool!

And while I am a HUUUUUUUUUUGE fan of how the female charr were handled, I don't think the fem hrothgar should follow their form exactly. Hunch, yes. Muscle, yes. Lion face, yes. But dial it all back a bit to match the blend of the male hrothgars. If we are comparing them to the males of their species (which we should instead of comparing them to the females of other species) my changes would be: For the face: make the eyes a big bigger, lower set, and almond shaped. Make the snout a bit more petite. And mix things up with the horns and fangs. For the body: change up the fur patterns. Make their shoulders/torso a bit narrower than the males without being waify. Have more of a noticeable taper for the neck without having it be a twig neck. Widen the hips. Thicken and lengthen the legs. And of course, if you must, give them some breasts that would be compressed in a sports bra style bra. (though i'd be fine with the Charr style "six or none")

But I'm not a fan of the fem hrothgar looking like that first picture comparatively, she's way too skinny and human when putting her next to the males. The muscles don't seem to be adding any actual mass to her figure making her body fat seem to be scary low. (since women have a higher percentage of bodyfat compared to men due to the whole needing energy to have the babies thing, defined muscles are a lot harder to achieve unless you're dangerously low on body fat or a big ol' slab o' STRONK, and even then it's gonna be softer than that with a healthy level of fat.)

I did a post on the fem hrothgar thread of my ideal, and to get back on topic, I'll probably do one for the male viera as well. (I'm just so bad at capturing masculinity >.< ...and also actually drawing like a not-lazy not-coward)

This is what I meant by masculine female hrotgar, and I'd love them to be like this
(credits to Roda, on the forums <3)

I think "masculine" is a bad term for it and we really shouldn't use it to describe strong women, or "feminine" to describe slender men.
It's correlating physical strength with belonging to men, and weakness belonging to women. And that's... not a great lens to view people with..
A woman who looks to improve her body and happens to take up more space with that strength is no less of a woman than one who does not.
And inversely a man who does not build muscle as bulk, or chooses not to build muscle much at all is no less of a man than one who does.
Yadda yadda, the amount of space you take up is not a requirement or qualification of a certain gender expression, blah blah blah, I hope y'all got my point.

And thank you for the credit. :>

[Homuculi]

No. Be happy we even got new races.

[Senn]

No.

Why?
/10char

[Xuled]

No. Be happy we even got new races.

I agree with this lass. What's wrong with Hrothgar fulfilling that fantasy? They look amazing, I'm strongly considering changing to one.

[Gwenorai]

I agree with this lass. What's wrong with Hrothgar fulfilling that fantasy? They look amazing, I'm strongly considering changing to one.

I mean they do, for some folks. Sadly folks don't all share the same fantasy. -sad violin sounds-

No. Be happy we even got new races.

This response reminds me of my good old mum when I was a toddler.
'Mum' I would say, as I stared at my Cauliflower - I didn't exactly like the taste of cauliflower - 'Can I have broccoli instead? I like broccoli.'
Mum dearest would then proceed to get in a power stance, picking me up and pile driving me into the floor leaving my shook and scared. She moved from me with the grace of a coerl and then whispered in my ear. 'No, be happy you got food at all. People in Africa would kill for that cauliflower.'
She then blasted me on r/choosingbeggers and called me entitled - she got platinum for that post.

[Roda]

Hrothgar do not fulfill the same fantasy as being a lithe rabbit-variant forest elf and vice versa.
Savage stronk is not ethereally graceful... ._.