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  1. #341
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    kidalutz's Avatar
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    Sigrun Helasdottir
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    It's been said before but I think the best solution is to extend Trusts to ARR content so that new players can go at their preferred pace through Castrum / Prae and cutscene skipping option can be enabled again. Then, finally, the main scenario roulette can be removed and nobody needs to be bribed to help out there any more. Trusts would also help a lot in those ARR leveling dungeons which start out very slow even for absolute beginners. There are bosses that have standing around doing nothing built into them like the first two bosses of Copperbell, just waiting around for enemies to spawn. In those situations Trusts with dialogue during the duties could make it more interesting and immersive, and again you can avoid having to bribe veteran players to go back to those beginner duties which are far below their skill and experience level.
    Or you know veteran players can get off their high horse and actually play all the content because at one time THEY were those new players and people did those dungeons as vets and helped get them through that. Just saying acting like you're better and that you don't want to mingle with the plebeians is NOT the direction to take the community in.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

  2. #342
    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Maximum Powerful
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MistyMew View Post
    If you sign up as undersized party OR solo, I feel SE should allow the option to skip.

    If you are doing the duty finder roulette, then keep them mandatory.

    I personally never agreed with the mandatory cut scene being added back into those msq duties. Right or wrong, I do not agree with it.
    BUT since it is currently forced in duties, and players are well aware of that, a fair compromise would be allowing to skip in the 2 conditions I mentioned.
    except there is literally no incentive to run them undersized.
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  3. #343
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by DrWho2010 View Post
    except there is literally no incentive to run them undersized.
    A group of friends in an FC wanting to help another member get through the MSQ wall without wasting several hours of their life is a pretty good incentive. Making the thing optional, but not highly rewarding (or even rewarding at all beyond the comfort of helping someone), allows people who just want to get through the story fast clicking out of everything to do so. If they added too many incentives to this method then people would be forcing it as the only viable way to go through the MSQ and we'd be back at step one again.
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    Last edited by Enla; 06-18-2019 at 06:31 AM.

  4. #344
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enla View Post
    A group of friends in an FC wanting to help another member get through the MSQ wall without wasting several hours of their life is a pretty good incentive.
    Which would defeat the point of the roulette.
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  5. #345
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    Dal S'ta
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    Gilgamesh
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    Bard Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    It's been said before but I think the best solution is to extend Trusts to ARR content so that new players can go at their preferred pace through Castrum / Prae and cutscene skipping option can be enabled again.
    I was under the impression that Trusts are 4 person content, not 8 person. Where did you hear otherwise?
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  6. #346
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    Dal S'ta
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    That way we have a fast MSQ duty worth a ton of exp, and first time players can always enjoy the Praetorium cutscenes. Or skip them at their leisure.
    If they go that route, you will no longer have a fast MSQ duty worth a ton of XP. The current 'ton' of XP is compensation for having to view the cut-scenes.
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  7. #347
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    Kyssa Shay
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    Siren
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    Reaper Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by Mixt View Post
    Seriously? That's the argument you are going with?

    "SKIP CUTSCENES OR KICK!"

    "LOL WATCH THEM AT THE INN!"

    "I HATE NEWBIES BECAUSE THEY SLOW RUNS DOWN!"
    Whenever I saw someone say this, I chewed them out. If I saw someone say to kick sprouts, especially in Cast or Prae, I would, at the earliest possible chance, initiate a vote kick on the person saying to kick the sprout. I am not OK with trashing sprouts, even from other sprouts. I know your reply is not to me, but I wanted to respond to this specifically.
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  8. #348
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CazzT View Post
    Whenever I saw someone say this, I chewed them out. If I saw someone say to kick sprouts, especially in Cast or Prae, I would, at the earliest possible chance, initiate a vote kick on the person saying to kick the sprout. I am not OK with trashing sprouts, even from other sprouts. I know your reply is not to me, but I wanted to respond to this specifically.
    Back before this change it was kind of stressful on me to queue for the main story Quest roulettes...

    Whenever we had a new player I felt obligated to stand up for them, which usually meant I would be pitting myself against most of the party, just so that the new player could experience the content as the devs intended.

    Since this change, the roulette has been much more relaxed.
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  9. #349
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    Takashi Kimura
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    Brynhildr
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    Conjurer Lv 77
    I believe if there is a new player in the group (first time bonus reward) then cutscenes should be mandatory. But if no one in the group is new, then there should be the option to skip the cutscenes. I don’t see a point in forcing something on people who aren’t new to the content.
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  10. #350
    Player Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PureOwnage87 View Post
    I believe if there is a new player in the group (first time bonus reward) then cutscenes should be mandatory. But if no one in the group is new, then there should be the option to skip the cutscenes. I don’t see a point in forcing something on people who aren’t new to the content.
    It has to be done like that or ppl would kick the new player, leave, or just dc...
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