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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    SE stated that they can't increase inventory space for players because that would be too much information for the world visiting feature to handle. I suspect the reasoning for getting only five extra glam plates is the same, because that is additional character information the game must track.
    But they servers can handle extra retainer info?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aivi_lo View Post
    But they servers can handle extra retainer info?
    Any extra sub cures that limitation. Funny that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aivi_lo View Post
    But they servers can handle extra retainer info?
    You can't use retainers when you're not in your home server.

    Also retainer info is likely stored differently because you don't carry retainers around with you. You need to access them with the summoning bell, so that is when the information is requested from the server. Whereas for things like glam plates and your personal inventory, all that is constantly carried on your character. When you visit another server all that info your character is carrying needs to be tracked.

    The reason why we cannot access retainers on other servers has something to do with how that information is accessed (retainer info is tied to servers, likely a side effect of how selling on the mb works) rather than world visiting itself presenting a roadblock.
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    Last edited by Penthea; 06-16-2019 at 12:26 AM. Reason: phrasing

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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    You can't use retainers when you're not in your home server.

    Also retainer info is likely stored differently because you don't carry retainers around with you. You need to access them with the summoning bell, so that is when the information is requested from the server. Whereas for things like glam plates and your personal inventory, all that is constantly carried on your character. When you visit another server all that info your character is carrying needs to be tracked.

    The reason why we cannot access retainers on other servers has something to do with how that information is accessed (retainer info is tied to servers, likely a side effect of how selling on the mb works) rather than world visiting itself presenting a roadblock.
    Except you've just given the solution to that problem. If the problem is how it interacts with the world visit system, then you just disconnect those. Already can't access retainers during a world visit... don't let us access the glamour dresser during a world visit. Problem solved.

    Far more likely is that their database design and system design here is completely pants-on-head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    Except you've just given the solution to that problem. If the problem is how it interacts with the world visit system, then you just disconnect those. Already can't access retainers during a world visit... don't let us access the glamour dresser during a world visit. Problem solved.
    Pretty sure it would go like this :
    The dresser is linked to glamour plates that can be linked to gear sets. So essentially they can't disable the dresser in world visit without disabling gear sets too.

    And the reason for all this is probably like you said : pants-on-head database/system design.
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    You can't use retainers when you're not in your home server.

    Also retainer info is likely stored differently because you don't carry retainers around with you. You need to access them with the summoning bell, so that is when the information is requested from the server. Whereas for things like glam plates and your personal inventory, all that is constantly carried on your character. When you visit another server all that info your character is carrying needs to be tracked.

    The reason why we cannot access retainers on other servers has something to do with how that information is accessed (retainer info is tied to servers, likely a side effect of how selling on the mb works) rather than world visiting itself presenting a roadblock.
    However, the glamour plates are already restricted in that you can only use them in major settlements (Idyllshire, Ishgard, RR, Kugane & the 3 starting cities - including in the inn rooms, and the 4 housing areas). If they wanted to, they could potentially limit glamour plates to only within inn rooms on visited worlds (since your glamour dresser and plates do transfer to the other worlds). I feel this could help alleviate the issues, as it would only have to dial back to your home realm when you're visiting an inn room. Less information to tussle with then.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.