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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    This subforum has like three experts on it.
    I'm honestly more responding to the "I think for myself and stick to mah convictions no matter what!" sentiment itself here. I find it poisonously anti-intellectual.

    Anyone who says they think for themselves by actively ignoring outside sources of information really just means they cherry pick what outside information they choose to consider. Because no one actually does, or can, figure out the world from purely deductive reasoning (the enlightenment got that one wrong, along with the assumption people are rational actors by default). Nor can anyone on their own replicate the entire sum of mankind's empirical experimentation and learning from scratch within a single human lifetime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaethan_Tessula View Post
    I'm honestly more responding to the "I think for myself and stick to mah convictions no matter what!" sentiment itself here. I find it poisonously anti-intellectual.

    Anyone who says they think for themselves by actively ignoring outside sources of information really just means they cherry pick what outside information they choose to consider. Because no one actually does, or can, figure out the world from purely deductive reasoning (the enlightenment got that one wrong, along with the assumption people are rational actors by default). Nor can anyone on their own replicate the entire sum of mankind's empirical experimentation and learning from scratch within a single human lifetime.
    Sure.

    But this is a game.

    I think bringing the scope of the entirety of humanity here and using it as some sort of argument for the game itself is equally flawed as using the logic of anti-vaxxers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Sure.

    But this is a game.

    I think bringing the scope of the entirety of humanity here and using it as some sort of argument for the game itself is equally flawed as using the logic of anti-vaxxers.
    This is what I initially responded to...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    So do you live by letting people make decisions for you?
    which was aimed at someone who said that the debate in this forum had helped them come to a decision on Shadowbringers.

    I don't care what the venue or topic is. Encouraging ossification of opinion against input of evidence is not something I'm going to stay quiet about. And since it's that philosophy itself I'm taking aim at, I will use the strongest example I can to show why it's bogus.

    So, to be clear, I'm not making an argument for or against the game here. I'm taking a bat to a poisonous philosophy in isolation from it.

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    As to the game, when I see evidence of game design that supports Square Enix knowing all along what they were doing with healers in this game, I will gladly admit to having been overly cynical and pessimistic. For the moment, however, what's available to us points towards the game design not changing to support the playstyle for healers Square professes they want. I'm going to engage in discussion with what we have rather than waiting to see, for absolute certain, if something later disproves my stance. Because when it comes, it comes, and I should adapt my analysis to fit the data at that point in time and not before.
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