We are in need of a official response to the healer situation

[LariaKirin]

This constant whining is quality entertainment.

[Truen]

This constant whining is quality entertainment.

Maybe, but from a PR standpoint the game is getting absolutely shit on across a number of boards b/c of these unpopular, regrettable 5.0 changes. You'd think they would have the imagination to foresee how bad these changes were and come up with something better before unveiling them to the public, but I mean--I guess not.

Now we're going to over heal the Hell out of everything while spamming broil on the SCH. Fun man. Really, really fun...if you're like 11 and brand new to MMORPGS perhaps. Even then it's a stretch. Many kids are smart and multitask well.

[LariaKirin]

Maybe, but from a PR standpoint the game is getting absolutely shit on across a number of boards b/c of these unpopular, regrettable 5.0 changes. You'd think they would have the imagination to foresee how bad these changes were and come up with something better before unveiling them to the public, but I mean--I guess not.

Every little bit of information is like a game of hide-and-seek for reasons to whine about the changes.

Beyond that, it's also a win-win game for the players. If they're right, they get to boast about how everything they predicted was spot on. If they're wrong, it will all blow over, forgotten, while everyone is busy playing the expansion.

[Laphael]

Every little bit of information is like a game of hide-and-seek for reasons to whine about the changes.

Beyond that, it's also a win-win game for the players. If they're right, they get to boast about how everything they predicted was spot on. If they're wrong, it will all blow over, forgotten, while everyone is busy playing the expansion.

Sometimes i wish they wouldn´t show anything before release.
At release ppl are usually to busy playing.
The players just have nothing else to do at the moment.
And what does the internet do if there is nothing to do? Right, complain and whine all day long.

[Truen]

Sometimes i wish they wouldn´t show anything before release.
At release ppl are usually to busy playing.
The players just have nothing else to do at the moment.
And what does the internet do if there is nothing to do? Right, complain and whine all day long.

The changes are why the majority of people are complaining. It's not boredom, it's bogus design choices.

[reyre]

Sometimes i wish they wouldn´t show anything before release.
At release ppl are usually to busy playing.
The players just have nothing else to do at the moment.
And what does the internet do if there is nothing to do? Right, complain and whine all day long.

You are complaining and whinining, it also seems that you have been doing it all day long, so congrats you used yourself as a live example.

[Laphael]

You are complaining and whinining, it also seems that you have been doing it all day long, so congrats you used yourself as a live example.

Well you know, im at work and have nothing else to do. Thats fine XD.
When i get home i will play and enjoy my favorite game.
And if healers are boring in SHB i will give calm feedback to SE and just play another job.
I did the same in SB with SCH. I didn´t like it and switched to AST. After they gave back Miasma II i went back to SCH.

[reyre]

Every little bit of information is like a game of hide-and-seek for reasons to whine about the changes.

Beyond that, it's also a win-win game for the players. If they're right, they get to boast about how everything they predicted was spot on. If they're wrong, it will all blow over, forgotten, while everyone is busy playing the expansion.

Why do you think it has anything to do with wininnig? Do you think that is the mindset that a most players have "I win i was right"? that tells me more about you than your point.

[LariaKirin]

Why do you think it has anything to do with wininnig? Do you think that is the mindset that a most players have "I win i was right"? that tells me more about you than your point.

Yes, I think that is the mindset of the whiners. Evidenced by the fact that they're very quick to mention how right they were in the same situation with Stormblood.

If you are the designer, you have a plan and specific reasons behind your design choices. Do you listen to feedback from people whose experience with your design totals up to 10 minutes of footage from "Special Event II"? Basic common sense says no. I would give everyone enough credit to understand this, which is why we all know that adjustments will be made only after release - only after people have had time to play through the expansion. That is when your feedback matters.

So either people do not understand this, or their complaining has a purpose other than offering feedback.

[reyre]

Yes, I think that is the mindset of the whiners. Evidenced by the fact that they're very quick to mention how right they were in the same situation with Stormblood.

If you are the designer, you have a plan and specific reasons behind your design choices. Do you listen to feedback from people whose experience with your design totals up to 10 minutes of footage from "Special Event II"? Basic common sense says no. I would give everyone enough credit to understand this, which is why we all know that adjustments will be made only after release - only after people have had time to play through the expansion. That is when your feedback matters.

So either people do not understand this, or their complaining has a purpose other than offering feedback.

Basic common sense says that you dont know the mindset of the "whiners". (also arent you whining as well? So you are part of the problem. You are whinnig about whinning how quaint) So you are saying common sense while not demonstrating any of your own and doing what you are critcizing, makes your whole argument oxymoronic, at best. So either you think you know what they are thinking, or your complaining, sorry "whining", has as much value as theirs.

You cant say they are outright wrong, since you also havent played anything nor can you say that the opposite is true, but you are free to share your views, as you have.

Oh and i would listen to that feedback, because "common sense" also dictate that all feedback is feedback, if you start choosing and picking given arbitrary values, well why even have a forum? By the by "common sense" also says that you should not engage with people that you dont like, yet you here you are or you do like whinning and whiners and are just looking to "hook up" with those you like? So if you go around using words like "common sense" but apply none of it, can you really say that is common sense or do you not have common sense?