Suspended for Otter Nonsense

[Iscah]

If someone walks into a lets say...italian Restaurant and insults all the people, those laws do not protect this person in any way and he will get quite a beating and such a kick in the butt, that he can't sit for weeks.

I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure that's not a good example scenario.

The first guy wouldn't be protected against hate speech laws, or perhaps some other kind of laws punishing his actions - but by the same token, the other people aren't protected against assault laws if they physically retaliate.

[Imuka]

Isn't the real problem with the whole Official Forums the haphazard and utterly silent moderation? I know the OF have an extremely poor reputation on other sites because of this.

The problem and this is also a problem ingame is, that it seems that they do not really work with a clear book of rules or sometimes just decide by their own personal views.
I saw how different GMs told players absolute different things ingame about certain topics.
Ask a mod if reselling houses is okay and you will get 11 answers from 10 GMs.


The same goes for the mods here. Some seem to clearly follow some rules and others seem to delete just what they do not like to be posted.
Like my example here "This reminds me of one of the male Viera threads. There was a player who posted nothing but insults, racism, homophobia and transphobia, told people to kill themself if they are so unhappy that they did not get male Vieras and the mods did not delete the posts for several days.
But mine and the post of other users telling him/her that we have no place for such hate against other people in our community were deleted for "spreading negativity" by a mod. "

Racism, Homophobia, Transphobia and telling people to commit suicide was not deleted for several days, but telling a person that this community does not want player spreading such hate was seen as "spreading negativity". And like I said, our posts were deleted after a few hours.
And this makes only sense, when we consider that a mod activly picked a side to support in this conversation and decided to mute everybody trying to tell hate spreading people to "shut up".

If only it were that easy. Seems like it's just filled to the brim with loopholes and bypasses seeing as how vicious people can get on here and get away with it.

It is the problem that some mods seem to decide what to delete and what not by their own personal views.
I did was also once a mod in a forum for TV Shows, around the size of 3000 Users.

And the rules were simple and clear.
"No personal opinions".
- if someone says something you do not like or support but that person does not break the rules: don't delete
- if a person says something you support, but breaks the rules: delete it

But with my example it felt like the mod himself/herself hated the whole male Vieare topic. So the whole toxicity and hate was not deleted for several days, while every try to make those people stop were marked as "spreading negativity".

I'm not a lawyer but I'm pretty sure that's not a good example scenario.

The first guy wouldn't be protected against hate speech laws, or perhaps some other kind of laws punishing his actions - but by the same token, the other people aren't protected against assault laws if they physically retaliate.

Yeah, this one is indeed not perfect. You are right. Lets say he gets told to leave and never come back again. Because the owner does not want such people in his/her Restaurant.

[Gula]

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I feel as though there is a major, major bias and lack of unity between mods. Favoritism per race (smarmy catgirl posts will stay despite rule breaking) and mods who may be players getting their opinions brought to light by allowing rule breaking posts to stay.

I distinctly recall a player during the male viera debate going off like they were on /b/ and not getting banned for days. In fact it may be the same person everyone keeps mentioning. I'm not sure. But those posts had me like oof.

[HyoMinPark]

I feel as though there is a major, major bias and lack of unity between mods. Favoritism per race (smarmy catgirl posts will stay despite rule breaking) and mods who may be players getting their opinions brought to light by allowing rule breaking posts to stay.

I distinctly recall a player during the male viera debate going off like they were on /b/ and not getting banned for days. In fact it may be the same person everyone keeps mentioning. I'm not sure. But those posts had me like oof.

I highly doubt there is favoritism at all when it comes to things like the race of your character and moderation. One of the most popular and well-liked forum members played a female Miqo’te for quite some time (though she is a female Midlander now) and was banned over pettiness in the Tales of the DF thread (you may actually see a hashtag present in some forum posters’ signatures related to her), so that debunks the “smarmy catgirl” theory you’ve suggested. I also don’t think that the moderators are players that are wanting to use rule-breaking posts as some message of their own personal opinions. Posts of all kinds are routinely removed and/or left to stand. There isn’t enough consistency to really prove either of these theories.

It’s all down to reports at this point, and I’m wondering if there’s a threshold that needs to be reached in order for actions to arise—be them from different people or repeated reports from the same person. Right now, we simply do not know. And perhaps we never really will, but. It is what it is.