Shadowbringer: Summoner Changes Discussion

[Singularity]

I think the overarching point is that there's no reason SMN has to specifically focus on Bahamut. There are many primals and no reason SMNs can't utilise any and all of them as befits the situation. The original Allagan discipline predates Bahamut even.

[Jandor]

I think the overarching point is that there's no reason SMN has to specifically focus on Bahamut. There are many primals and no reason SMNs can't utilise any and all of them as befits the situation. The original Allagan discipline predates Bahamut even.

There is also no reason that SMN can't have other stuff alongside the Bahamut stuff.

Even with the Bahamut mage focus in HW and SB they still got some unrelated skills to play with.

[Shurrikhan]

There is also no reason that SMN can't have other stuff alongside the Bahamut stuff.

Even with the Bahamut mage focus in HW and SB they still got some unrelated skills to play with.

Back around the time we were getting info on HW I played around with some ideas for "Advanced Summoning" using the Aethertrail and Trance mechanics.
To simplify and pare down the whole mess, let's just say that you had Aetherflow spenders based on your pet and Aetherflow would remember the element in which each was cast.
It accounted for a Shiva, Ramuh, and Leviathan Egi, so ultimately you had access to your own Unaspected Element and all six others.
You could Trance, at Aetherflow cost, in order to take on the element of your pet, instilling element-inherent mechanics, and allowing for later elemental synergies.
As you could built up Aethertrail from these different elements you could gain access to 'Advanced Summons' based on the flow of synergetic/harmonic elements (Phoenix) or consumptive/dissonant elements (Bahamut).
That part gets complicated, though, so I'll save it for later. But the long and short of it is that you had many more stepping stone options and twists available to you, while Phoenix and Bahamut were far more distinct and ultimately impactful, although more rarely seen (treated like... 3-4-minute ultimate gauge spenders more so than simple CDs).

It's kind of weird seeing your character as a man, Shurrikhan.

It weirds even me out a bit. I've taken more of a liking to my alt of late, though, so I might be retiring my 1.0 character finally or relegating her to alt position. Idk. Time will tell.