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    Player JunkhogMakison's Avatar
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    Pup Twunk
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    Did you ever actually play classic WoW? If you didn't match the specified cookie-cutter build, you'd be laughed out of parties all day. Take off the rose-tinted glasses and it's a terrible mess.
    Firstly I've never played classic wow hence why I said why do "P.E.O.P.L.E." hence others that played the game besides me who had better stuff to do at the time.

    Secondly I've done the research, the game offered more flexibility and customization with abilities, skills, and attributes as opposed to how it currently works today. You can be a mage of ice arcana and fire instead of being forced down one land.

    Third, a terrible mess is Tera, Aion, Black Desert, XIV 1.0, and Bless. If the game was as clunky and as messy as you and numerous others claim to be then it wouldn't have become one of the most profitable and prosperous MMORPGS of all time "at the time"

    My point still stands, nobody likes having stuff taken away from them even if it's one off clinker spells people just love to have variety with their tables.
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    Kaedan's Avatar
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    Kaedan Burkhardt
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JunkhogMakison View Post
    Firstly I've never played classic wow hence why I said why do "P.E.O.P.L.E." hence others that played the game besides me who had better stuff to do at the time.

    Secondly I've done the research, the game offered more flexibility and customization with abilities, skills, and attributes as opposed to how it currently works today. You can be a mage of ice arcana and fire instead of being forced down one land.

    Third, a terrible mess is Tera, Aion, Black Desert, XIV 1.0, and Bless. If the game was as clunky and as messy as you and numerous others claim to be then it wouldn't have become one of the most profitable and prosperous MMORPGS of all time "at the time"

    My point still stands, nobody likes having stuff taken away from them even if it's one off clinker spells people just love to have variety with their tables.
    Makes claim about a game he hasn't played.
    Is wrong about said claim.
    Claims that he "did his research" and that's why the person who actually played said game is the one that is wrong....

    >_>
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    Last edited by Kaedan; 06-12-2019 at 06:41 PM.

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    Ilyrian's Avatar
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    Ilyrian Silvermoon
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JunkhogMakison View Post
    Secondly I've done the research, the game offered more flexibility and customization with abilities, skills, and attributes as opposed to how it currently works today. You can be a mage of ice arcana and fire instead of being forced down one land.
    Already been covered but a world of no to this.

    If anything Vanilla WoW was much more rigid in what worked and what didn't - from the classes you picked to the spec you had to take.
    I played a full time Holy Priest back then and though I loved it (and I will be going back to gets some nostalgia feels) there was no choice, the build was set, unless you were unlucky enough to be the Prayer of Spirit bot, and you did your job.
    Horde choices for healer: Priest. Occasionally you'd see a Druid or Shammy.
    Ironically modern WoW is more flexible especially where class and spec choices are involved.
    (Unless they are going through a loving Discipline Priest phase where all other healers become irrelevant - though this hasn't happened for a few years in raiding to be fair).
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    Last edited by Ilyrian; 06-12-2019 at 07:58 PM.

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    Mezzoforte's Avatar
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    Shuma Gorath
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    Samurai Lv 75
    Quote Originally Posted by JunkhogMakison View Post
    Firstly I've never played classic wow hence why I said why do "P.E.O.P.L.E." hence others that played the game besides me who had better stuff to do at the time.

    Secondly I've done the research, the game offered more flexibility and customization with abilities, skills, and attributes as opposed to how it currently works today. You can be a mage of ice arcana and fire instead of being forced down one land.

    Third, a terrible mess is Tera, Aion, Black Desert, XIV 1.0, and Bless. If the game was as clunky and as messy as you and numerous others claim to be then it wouldn't have become one of the most profitable and prosperous MMORPGS of all time "at the time"

    My point still stands, nobody likes having stuff taken away from them even if it's one off clinker spells people just love to have variety with their tables.
    Take it from a guy who played WoW since beta. Classic was extremely cookie cutter. The only people who thought there was variation in builds were people who didn't even step into a single raid. Each class was very strongly pigeonholed into very specific builds which each had maybe a variation within 1-3 talent points that were preference since they had to fill spots to unlock higher tiers and were irrelevant. Don't let the large amount of clickable things trick you into thinking there was any choice outside of "optimal" and "varying degrees of suboptimal."

    Also, for the people complaining about they wouldn't heal if they had to "continually actively heal" it just shows that it isn't healers who want to dps are the real constituents here. It is DPS that want faster queues by playing a healer that almost never heals. Having to heal 24/7 nonstop is no different than a dps dpsing 24/7 nonstop. If you dont want to heal just play a DPS. Let healers be just that, healers. I don't really understand the whole "play your kit as it is designed" when that means nothing. Since the argument here is changing the kit to fit the style.

    TLDR DPS dont want to heal but want to play healers for fast queues and not heal.
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    Last edited by Mezzoforte; 06-13-2019 at 11:27 AM.