Maybe this means we will get to summon primals? In the trailer you can see Titania fighting against a boss
Maybe this means we will get to summon primals? In the trailer you can see Titania fighting against a boss
Probably not? I think it was stated that shards lost to light OR dark benefit neither Hydaelyn or Zodiark. Of course its still possible to be the case, giving a momentary aether boost to their respective primal, then none when the shard is permanently swallowed... but then it would be a sort of pointless story element.

However we know that Mhach summoned voidsent from the 13th regularly. We can speculate that Amdapor might have summoned sin eaters. Ultimately if either the 1st or 13th were completely cut off from the Source or any of the Reflections they would in fact be useless - thus making the statement of them being little use true. However if people summon them to the Source or Reflections that still have plenty of aether they could consume it there to feed their respective masters. Also this information about the uselessness of a void of light or dark mostly comes from the ascians and I don't think they have been telling us the whole truth, and I suspect that maybe many of them don't know the whole truth either.Probably not? I think it was stated that shards lost to light OR dark benefit neither Hydaelyn or Zodiark. Of course its still possible to be the case, giving a momentary aether boost to their respective primal, then none when the shard is permanently swallowed... but then it would be a sort of pointless story element.



With Eden being pretty much confirmed to be eden from ff8
I'm pretty hyped to see if we'll get other bosses from FF8 in the raid. I'm hoping for Griever somewhere and a remix of the "maybe I'm a lion" track.
Eden's glyph has a lot of similarities with the aetherial sea/crystal tower glyphs.
Could Eden by tied to either one of those?
Perhaps it's some kind of 'ark' that was built to traverse the aetherial sea, and as such, contains various forms of life/aether that could be used to rebuild the First and 'restore the elements'.
EDIT: What if it's the survivors of the Thirteenth shard? Sailing through the aetherial sea, before being called to the First?
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I'm interested in Innocence, as a chief sin eater that means he was originally a man or a creature that was caught in the flood. Could it be that he was the previous WoL/WoD caught in the flood?

My speculation is that maybe he was the next generation that never came to be before Arbert and co. had completely upset the balance. The name is certainly evocative of that.
Possible, but unlikely? Not much of a resemblance between them. I would also expect to see the rest of the WoDs if that is the case.
I did see a wild guess though that it might be G'raha Tia getting corrupted sometime after we get there. The robes kinda seem to match, as does the place in the screenshots.


Did Alphinaud and Alisaie seem a little taller and slightly older to anyone? If they are older, by the time we reach the missing scions on the first, how many years would have passed? What is the time dilation like between the shards/worlds?
Edit: Also, new thought, when we all return to the source together, will they return to their younger bodies or will their bodies on the source age up to match them?
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