Results 1 to 10 of 248

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    Daralii's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2015
    Posts
    3,001
    Character
    Endris Caemwynn
    World
    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    I knew it! Ever since Binding Coil gave us a look at Bahamut having a decidedly Mother Crystal-esque heart, I knew Hydaelyn would be a Primal. Alexander went a step further and confirmed it as well; An autonomous walking city-Primal with a crystal heart? Oh yes, lets take that to the logical conclusion and have a planet sized Primal! Throw in the biggest worry with Eureka being "What if someone asked him to make a Mother Crystal?" and the writing is on the wall, floor and ceiling. I knew my boy Lahabrea wouldn't lie to us, now watch Estinien and Zenos bump into each other to inadvertently revive Lahabrea, after the smallest sliver of his being survived in Nidhoggs Eye and latched onto the two men most possessed by it...

    Also... Sin Eaters are undying with the same aether released from defeating one returning in another? Oh boy, I wish we had some method of consuming and warping aether... I've waited long enough for Free Company Primal Summoning, you give it to me now, Yoshida! Don't let Heaven-on-High be it...
    But if the crystals were the hearts of Bahamut and Alexander, does that make Hydaelyn/Zodiark the literal heart of the planet, and the planet their body?
    (7)

  2. #2
    Player
    Nalien's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    3,784
    Character
    Taisai Jin
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    But if the crystals were the hearts of Bahamut and Alexander, does that make Hydaelyn/Zodiark the literal heart of the planet, and the planet their body?
    That was my hypothesis oh so long ago. We're effectively living on a Primal, and Primals aren't inherently "bad", just all the ones we've faced (who've been summoned via Ascian teachings...) are actively leeching off Hydaelyn. Granted, perhaps Hydaelyn also guzzles aether like the rest of the Primals, given that's basically the lore behind Rejoinings at this point... Still... I'm hesitant to kill the very embodiment of the very land we walk on... Hydaelyn seems self sufficient when you factor out Ascian meddling...

    Also, because I completely missed it;

    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Needless to say, I'm not trusting any new allies we gain in this expansion, especially if they're a fairy...


    Oh... Oh no...

    Based on the trailer though, it seems G'raha might be filling the role of useful idiot... I guess Minfilia as Agnes was far too obvious...
    (8)
    Last edited by Nalien; 06-11-2019 at 02:42 PM.

  3. #3
    Player
    YianKutku's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2016
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
    Posts
    972
    Character
    Miyo Mohzolhi
    World
    Sophia
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    Also, because I completely missed it;





    Oh... Oh no...

    Based on the trailer though, it seems G'raha might be filling the role of useful idiot... I guess Minfilia as Agnes was far too obvious...
    But does the fairy pixie have patterns on her wings that, if you squint slightly, could be interpreted as numbers counting down?

    Either way, clearly we must be brave. By default.
    (7)

  4. #4
    Player
    Dualblade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Location
    Night Kdark
    Posts
    2,190
    Character
    Juyon Intoner
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    That was my hypothesis oh so long ago. We're effectively living on a Primal, and Primals aren't inherently "bad", just all the ones we've faced (who've been summoned via Ascian teachings...) are actively leeching off Hydaelyn. Granted, perhaps Hydaelyn also guzzles aether like the rest of the Primals, given that's basically the lore behind Rejoinings at this point... Still... I'm hesitant to kill the very embodiment of the very land we walk on... Hydaelyn seems self sufficient when you factor out Ascian meddling...

    Also, because I completely missed it;





    Oh... Oh no...

    Based on the trailer though, it seems G'raha might be filling the role of useful idiot... I guess Minfilia as Agnes was far too obvious...
    To be fair thats probably a pixie!
    (1)

  5. #5
    Player
    Zyneste's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2016
    Posts
    389
    Character
    Zyneste Azurox
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    That was my hypothesis oh so long ago. We're effectively living on a Primal, and Primals aren't inherently "bad", just all the ones we've faced (who've been summoned via Ascian teachings...) are actively leeching off Hydaelyn. Granted, perhaps Hydaelyn also guzzles aether like the rest of the Primals, given that's basically the lore behind Rejoinings at this point... Still... I'm hesitant to kill the very embodiment of the very land we walk on... Hydaelyn seems self sufficient when you factor out Ascian meddling...
    I don't think Hydalyn guzzles the worlds aether, so much as she is the world's Aether. Hyd and Zodiark are the same beings, torn between letting life run its course and destroying it. The ascians who want the return of the one true god [hyd+zod] spread the seeds of primal summoning to weaken hydalyn. I posted this in discord thinking about it after watching the E3 vid. Glad someone else was thinking it too. xD

    " I think the narrative of this expac is to push us away from hydalyn, but ultimately we are going to stand with hydalyn. I thought for a moment, what is hydalyn doing that makes her a better primal than the rest, then I realized hydalyn has never really manifested a form outside of borrowing minfilia and the crystal.

    What if the world is hydalyn, manifest. We are her dream, like ffx. Primals being summoned weakens her ability to keep the world running.

    Zodiark wants the destruction of the world [all 13 shards since hydalyn split them] so that hydalyn and him can merge back into one. Hydalyn, reverent of her creations, emboldened by their prayers refuses to wipe the slate. For the sake of her children she will keep their world alive, even as they deny her and drain her power for the protection of lesser gods."
    (13)
    Last edited by Zyneste; 06-11-2019 at 03:24 PM.