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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    Maybe. Though I can’t help but think the Ascians would struggle to even spell “collateral damage.”

    And I can’t help but think if I was dealing with a harmful parasite, the last thing I would want to do is make it stronger and harder to kill.
    In the very beginning (or, well, close to the beginning), Lahabrea commented that Hydaelyn was indeed a "parasite" responsible for "aetheric disturbances [threatening] to warp aetheric and natural law beyond all recognition," and that She needed to be "burned out if the planet is to recover."

    While it's easy to forget this and/or dismiss it as bunk... if Solus speaks truth, it's been there from the very beginning, up with Ifrit's comment that he couldn't temper us because "[our] soul had already been claimed by another." (Of course, given Hydaelyn hasn't used her claim on our soul to compel us to actually do anything, it feels more like an inoculation against other primal influences.)

    So. F/GO Babylonia-style rebellion against Mom incoming? And we still don't know why the Ascians serve Zodiark and consider him the "one true god," if he too is a primal like Hydaelyn...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    And we still don't know why the Ascians serve Zodiark and consider him the "one true god," if he too is a primal like Hydaelyn...
    Maybe he's the original personality and voice of their combined form?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Maybe he's the original personality and voice of their combined form?
    The WoL did get a echo vision of a Black Crystal which is probably Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    In the very beginning (or, well, close to the beginning), Lahabrea commented that Hydaelyn was indeed a "parasite" responsible for "aetheric disturbances [threatening] to warp aetheric and natural law beyond all recognition," and that She needed to be "burned out if the planet is to recover."

    While it's easy to forget this and/or dismiss it as bunk... if Solus speaks truth, it's been there from the very beginning, up with Ifrit's comment that he couldn't temper us because "[our] soul had already been claimed by another." (Of course, given Hydaelyn hasn't used her claim on our soul to compel us to actually do anything, it feels more like an inoculation against other primal influences.)

    So. F/GO Babylonia-style rebellion against Mom incoming? And we still don't know why the Ascians serve Zodiark and consider him the "one true god," if he too is a primal like Hydaelyn...

    Right, but Solus seems to be following Elidibus lead on this, and I may be forgetting but I don’t believe he has ever argued it that way. If both Zodiark and Hydaelyn are primals, and Lahabrea knew this, but still only wanted to eliminate one, then there must be something else that’s the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    Right, but Solus seems to be following Elidibus lead on this, and I may be forgetting but I don’t believe he has ever argued it that way. If both Zodiark and Hydaelyn are primals, and Lahabrea knew this, but still only wanted to eliminate one, then there must be something else that’s the issue.
    It comes back the new driving question: if Hydaelyn and Zodiark are both primals (false gods), why do the Ascians denounce one as a false god(dess) and revere the other as their one true god?

    Awakening Zodiark may simply be a matter of returning the world to equilibrium to prevent catastrophes like Floods of Darkness or Light, but that driving question remains, and it's going to gnaw at me for three more weeks.
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