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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Don't forget the part that there are 2 Minfilia with one being from the Source that we know and the younger one seems to be the Minfilia born in the First who will be our Trust Companion.
    Remember, the First is entirely separate from the Source by thousands of years; having exact personal counterparts is amazingly improbable. My guess is that the elder Minfiliia is the Word of the Mother, possibly fully manifesting Hyadelyn's will, while the younger is Minfillia's soul, incarnated like the rest of the Scions are on the First.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenewalXVII View Post
    Remember, the First is entirely separate from the Source by thousands of years; having exact personal counterparts is amazingly improbable. My guess is that the elder Minfiliia is the Word of the Mother, possibly fully manifesting Hyadelyn's will, while the younger is Minfillia's soul, incarnated like the rest of the Scions are on the First.
    Not impossible when you consider each world takes on different history and time frame.

    Where one person maybe born in X era in X world another version of him or herself maybe born in Y era of Y world.

    For example, there maybe a version of you in another reality of Earth that is born in a more futuristic era set thousands of years from our reality of Earth timeframe thus living completely different life from what you live and experience.

    this would in return have your alternate reality counterpart be born with a different belief, experience, and interests in their life thus he or she may have your name and same appearance but have a completely different personality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Not impossible when you consider each world takes on different history and time frame.

    Where one person maybe born in X era in X world another version of him or herself maybe born in Y era of Y world.

    For example, there maybe a version of you in another reality of Earth that is born in a more futuristic era set thousands of years from our reality of Earth timeframe.
    How? Cultures are entirely different, meaning how people interact are different, and thus who gets together and reproduces is entirely different. Everything that makes you you would be different; your counterpart wouldn't in any way be substantively the same. Like, you could just arbitrarily have counterparts, perhaps as Arbert mirrors the Warrior of Light, but it would just be an arbitrary linkage, not a true alternate version.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenewalXVII View Post
    How? Cultures are entirely different, meaning how people interact are different, and thus who gets together and reproduces is entirely different. Everything that makes you you would be different; your counterpart wouldn't in any way be substantively the same. Like, you could just arbitrarily have counterparts, perhaps as Arbert mirrors the Warrior of Light, but it would just be an arbitrary linkage, not a true alternate version.
    I added more to my post but as I said before...

    "this would in return have your alternate reality counterpart be born with a different belief, experience, and interests in their life thus he or she may have your name and same appearance but have a completely different personality."

    I am not talking about a Mirror image of everything about yourself but a alternate reality version that lived a completely different life due to how different their version of the World is.

    Many stories have done this theme before. A character may look like X character but they themselves are Y character who only similarities are their appearance while everything else are completely different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    I added more to my post but as I said before...

    "this would in return have your alternate reality counterpart be born with a different belief, experience, and interests in their life thus he or she may have your name and same appearance but have a completely different personality."

    I am not talking about a Mirror image of everything about yourself but a alternate reality version that lived a completely different life due to how different their version of the World is.
    That's fair, but I suppose at that point you get to a philosophical debate about whether or not that's you, if literally your culture and ancestry are entirely different. I suppose a term I'd agree with is doppelganger.
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    “Through prayer and sacrifice, the will of the star was made manifest.” This line, if it’s not just pulled from something else entirely, poses other questions. Is he referring to Hydaelyn as the star? Or something else? And if it is Hydaelyn then that seems to fit poorly with everything else said, at least as it was shown in the trailer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaraGrace View Post
    “Through prayer and sacrifice, the will of the star was made manifest.” This line, if it’s not just pulled from something else entirely, poses other questions. Is he referring to Hydaelyn as the star? Or something else? And if it is Hydaelyn then that seems to fit poorly with everything else said, at least as it was shown in the trailer.
    The easy story is that a pre-Sundering society worshiped a Mother Earth equivalent, a being that encompassed the planet itself. Their belief engendered a primal that believed itself to thus be the planet's will incarnate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RenewalXVII View Post
    Remember, the First is entirely separate from the Source by thousands of years; having exact personal counterparts is amazingly improbable. My guess is that the elder Minfiliia is the Word of the Mother, possibly fully manifesting Hyadelyn's will, while the younger is Minfillia's soul, incarnated like the rest of the Scions are on the First.
    Plus there is a second copy of the guy who accompanies you into town when you first start the game on the first. Looks like there will be copies of some people we know.
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