Is Zodiark evil?

[Erendis]

Varis, who is pro-human right down to the letter.

Except he is not at all... He is pro-superior race.

[Balipu]

Except he is not at all... He is pro-superior race.

Unless all of that was just a lie to push the Alliance into going all out against Garlemald as that is the only way to get rid of Solus.

[Cilia]

Unless all of that was just a lie to push the Alliance into going all out against Garlemald as that is the only way to get rid of Solus.

If absolutely nothing else, Varis is undoubtedly extremely patriotic and devoted to doing the best for his people. I seriously doubt he'd willingly sacrifice his soldiers, his people, gambling on the possibility that we'd come out on top and get rid of Solus for him in the process.

Varis may be a genocidal madman (probably), but deliberately killing his own men is something only monsters like his son would do. If he wants to hold that little bit of moral high ground he has over Zenos...

[Balipu]

If absolutely nothing else, Varis is undoubtedly extremely patriotic and devoted to doing the best for his people. I seriously doubt he'd willingly sacrifice his soldiers, his people, gambling on the possibility that we'd come out on top and get rid of Solus for him in the process.

Varis may be a genocidal madman (probably), but deliberately killing his own men is something only monsters like his son would do. If he wants to hold that little bit of moral high ground he has over Zenos...

Well he is sacreficing his people either way. The rejoining is not something we can survive as far as we know.

[MrThinker]

Well he is sacreficing his people either way. The rejoining is not something we can survive as far as we know.

Actually, people have always survived the rejoinings (i.e. The Calamities), since society always amanges to rebuild itself. I think you meant "the return of Zodiark" in particular which would be more of a 'Resurrection' or 'Reunion'.

[Balipu]

Actually, people have always survived the rejoinings (i.e. The Calamities), since society always amanges to rebuild itself. I think you meant "the return of Zodiark" in particular which would be more of a 'Resurrection' or 'Reunion'.

Yeah that one. When all the known races are replaced by that one ultimate race.

[Cilia]

The implication behind what Varis intends to do is that, after all the Shards have been Rejoined, the people left will be of his "perfect master race," capable of taking on the Ascians and "freeing the reins of history from their grip." I... don't know what he intends to do about Zodiark, assuming he believes Zodiark exists at all - don't forget the Garleans are known atheists, so Zodiark may not be something he's taking into account.

Step 1: Cause all the Rejoinings to recreate the "perfect master race."
Step 2: Kill the Ascians.
Step 3: Profit!

[RopeDrink]

Except he is not at all... He is pro-superior race.

Everything that has been shown regarding the angles indicate a few things.

a) Varis absolutely loathes the notion that the Ascians are pulling the empire strings, as is understandable. He is a puppet-leader and this aggravates him no end. He's so fervently behind the empire that the fact Solus' 'timely demise', which threw its own leadership into question, didn't even register on Varis' radar as having been planned just for the sake of 'moar chaos'. Ascians may have built the empire to 'sow the seeds of chaos', but Varis didn't even imagine that said goal would also apply to the empire itself. It is not exempt from receiving the treatment it was created for. Varis absolutely hated this.

b) His attention towards Black Rose (after Gaius' sabotage); In essence, if it stops the needless deaths of his troops then there is 'no method I would not employ'. Despite the implications of him continuing production on what can be compared to the likes of nuclear weapons in our time, it is also implied that he's only really doing it to placate Solus/Elidibus constant demand for Varis to, you know, DO something, and that it would save his men more trouble than it's worth.

c) We can only assume (for now) that he genuinely meant what was said at the negotiating table. I'm not buying it at all - at least not 100%. He clearly wants the Ascians out of his hair and may very well be taking his pro-human aspect to the next level, but there are some (like me) who believe it to be a bit of a bluff and playing up to his puppet-leadership, and others who seem to think that Varis is under Solus control somehow. I've not seen any indication of the latter and am under no illusions that Varis, for the most part, is a big-bad no matter which way you cut it, but I most definitely do suspect that at some point down the line, Varis will betray Solus/Ascians, likely with the sabotage of the 'spare bodies' he prepared.

I've not seen much to indicate pro-superior-race other than the 'rejoining' goal, which again, we'll have to wait and see - until then, I stand by him being pro-human until we see for certain how things pan out and whether he genuinely is fully behind the concept of merging all the things for the sake of a potential master-race. I hope not, because not only is that a bit of a tired trope, but also seems completely stupid to me. There is no indication at all that having such a thing happen would make said race 100% happy to align with itself just because the imperfections are flattened out, and certainly doesn't guarantee he'd be the leader in any way -- assuming there is even anything left to lead afterward.

[Odstarva]

Holy fuck.

Pardon the language, but my god. That trailer, the very ending line.
I KNEW IT, I KNEW ITTTTT!

[Kusanagi7]

so what does that make us?