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    MirielleLavandre's Avatar
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    Gabrielle Beausejour
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    Will dancer become a 'required' job?

    Just speaking for some of the harder trials and/or raids, but after seeing one of the 'support abilities' spreadsheets the fine folks over on the Balance were making (based, of course, on data that could but most likely won't change), it seems SE has made dancer into the only true 'buffer'. Yoshi-P pretty much said this directly in his Famitsu interview.

    I thought that 5.0 was attempting to decrease the 'synergies' between jobs, and yet dancer seems to be synergistic with everything. Thoughts?

    **Link is not my work at all and just taken from the reddit thread u/Jahaudant posted that will be updated soon, it seems**

    https://i.imgur.com/pJ8k7B8.png
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    Ven Black
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    Probably

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    Draelon Eldad
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    I don't think anyone can say for sure, without seeing how it plays out. But there is a very good chance that it will be a part of the meta. The same meta that square enix was trying to eliminate or even out.
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    Aileen Pureheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemuel81 View Post
    I don't think anyone can say for sure, without seeing how it plays out. But there is a very good chance that it will be a part of the meta. The same meta that square enix was trying to eliminate or even out.
    They will never be able to kill the meta because the meta is meta.
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    It really just depends on if the single target buff affects raid dps and just how much the healing abilities will be needed to deal with in coming damage
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Only time will tell. It depends on how good or how bad their actually DPS is.

    Quote Originally Posted by MirielleLavandre View Post
    This is inaccurate and seems designs to show all DNC utility but not the other jobs. For example you have Curing Waltz but don't have Everlasting Flight or Verraise/Vercure.
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    Last edited by Dyvid; 06-09-2019 at 12:29 AM.

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    Ayis Luola
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Only time will tell. It depends on how good or how bad their actually DPS is.

    This is inaccurate and seems designs to show all DNC utility but not the other jobs. For example you have Curing Waltz but don't have Everlasting Flight or Verraise/Vercure.
    also missing the regen on SCH's new Sacred soil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    Only time will tell. It depends on how good or how bad their actually DPS is.

    This is inaccurate and seems designs to show all DNC utility but not the other jobs. For example you have Curing Waltz but don't have Everlasting Flight or Verraise/Vercure.
    I was thinking about that was well, but DNC has an on demand AoE heal with 400 potency, granted it has small AoE but good for stack healing. Everlasting Flight only happens when you summon Phoenix and it's only a 20 potency HoT. I'm not complaining about it, it has nice passive healing however I don't think it is worth noting that it can be used to save people. It will more than likely just overheal in raid content and SMN would have to ruin their rotation to save Flight for a healing phase. RDM does indeed have Vercure but I've never once been saved by a RDM using Vercure on me in raid. Ever. Even if I am at 2k HP and an AoE is about to come out, a RDM has never saved me. Not saying they have to, but realistically, a RDM isn't going to sacrifice a GCD to heal someone. DNC's healer on the other hand is ogcd.
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    Typical Karen
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    5.0 is only attempting to reduce synergies between specific jobs (i.e. Bringing a DRG because their piercing debuff increases damage for your bard)
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinfeld View Post
    5.0 is only attempting to reduce synergies between specific jobs (i.e. Bringing a DRG because their piercing debuff increases damage for your bard)
    This. Also not as impactful, but dragoon also increased red mage damage output since a few of their skills are physical piercing damage too.

    Also how you would bring a ninja if you didn't have a warrior, or you would anyway so that when party splits happen, like in O12, the ninja can get paired with the not warrior.
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