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    Dualblade's Avatar
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    Juyon Intoner
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    I'm keen to learn how we're going to explain a Demi-Phoenix away... Goes from "Nobody must ever learn of this..." in Coil, to "Lets show everyone!" with SMN 80... Then again, I don't recall Demi-Bahamut having much in the way of an explanation, when it really should have something... The Calamity was such a major traumatic event, I wonder how many PTSD episodes Summoners have triggered just carelessly throwing Demi-Bahamut about...

    Also, I'm just now realizing that there are 4 Role Questlines, following the history of the Warriors of "Darkness"... I may need to revise my current theory... Crystal of Earth for Tanks, Crystal of Water for Healers, Crystal of Fire for Melee, and Crystal of Wind for Ranged... Oh yes I can see them doing something like that...
    A couple of others have already mentioned it but the explanation is easy enough. For those closest to the SMN but not quite in the know Phoenix's aether was mixed in with Bahamut's, thus the SMN is just as linked to Phoenix as they are to Bahamut. And only might need explaining if the SMN themselves know about Phoenix's connection to Bahamut's defeat given that you won't need to beat t12 to access it.

    Meanwhile anyone outside of that small circle will just see the SMN using a new summon and at best be "thats so cool" or "Arrrrgh I'm on fire!" and not "OMG Phoenix was the one who beat Bahamut and was also Louisoix!" Plus the fact that in-story the SMN probably doesn't call Bahamut out in the middle of a residential area to test on a dummy.
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    Taisai Jin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    Meanwhile anyone outside of that small circle will just see the SMN using a new summon and at best be "thats so cool" or "Arrrrgh I'm on fire!" and not "OMG Phoenix was the one who beat Bahamut and was also Louisoix!" Plus the fact that in-story the SMN probably doesn't call Bahamut out in the middle of a residential area to test on a dummy.
    IDK, if I was an NPC, I'd be asking what Primal that's based on, where/when the WoL battled it.

    Don't even need to go that far though, it's obviously a Phoenix based Primal. Part of the reason we were told not to let the Phoenix story leave Coil was because that kind of Primal (one with the power of Rebirth) is a pretty dangerous idea to let out... If people knew there was a Phoenix Primal, and they now will because we're just throwing it out there, they might get the idea to summon it in order to revive <insert loved one here>. Then they're tempered. Then they're just summoning it for fun. Then we have a problem.

    Not letting out the truth behind Coil is easy. We can BS a story about where we encountered the Primal very easily. We'll still be making it public knowledge that there is indeed a Phoenix based Primal kicking around the world though, and that is also what we were warned against doing in Coil...
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    Last edited by Nalien; 06-09-2019 at 01:59 AM.

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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    IDK, if I was an NPC, I'd be asking what Primal that's based on, where/when the WoL battled it.

    Don't even need to go that far though, it's obviously a Phoenix based Primal. Part of the reason we were told not to let the Phoenix story leave Coil was because that kind of Primal (one with the power of Rebirth) is a pretty dangerous idea to let out... If people knew there was a Phoenix Primal, and they now will because we're just throwing it out there, they might get the idea to summon it in order to revive <insert loved one here>. Then they're tempered. Then they're just summoning it for fun. Then we have a problem.

    Not letting out the truth behind Coil is easy. We can BS a story about where we encountered the Primal very easily. We'll still be making it public knowledge that there is indeed a Phoenix based Primal kicking around the world though, and that is also what we were warned against doing in Coil...
    Suzaku existing would make it pretty easy to lie about.
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