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  1. #21
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualblade View Post
    The second volume doesn't go into it at all, the part for Jobs is mostly about the weapons and armors. We might see more in Volume III but who knows.
    Yeah, I'm not expecting vol 3 to do anything for older jobs beyond give some lore on their AF4 weapons/armor. Gun Breaker and Dancer of course will get the full breakdown but I don't expect any big revisits to old jobs.

    Though it is a little funny now that some of the spells that once got detailed in the lore books like Flash are going away now. Or at least Flash is I haven't checked to see if it's the only case or not.
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    Rocl Montaigne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright-Flower View Post
    Though it is a little funny now that some of the spells that once got detailed in the lore books like Flash are going away now. Or at least Flash is I haven't checked to see if it's the only case or not.
    I actually did this recently after remembering the Flash entry, lol. Flash, Manwall, Leeches, and Gauss Barrel are the casualties with entries in the first Encyclopedia.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrThinker View Post
    In fact, Phoenix changes BACK into red-blue after we beat him.
    Ah, I had thought to check the immediate aftermath of battle cutscene but time got the better of me. Thanks!
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  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nalien View Post
    IDK, if I was an NPC, I'd be asking what Primal that's based on, where/when the WoL battled it.
    I mean, the WoL doesn't have to have battled it. Just have been "exposed to its aether upon its death". That's the explanation as to how a SMN who has never done Coil is able to summon Demi-Bahamut - they were in Eorzea when the Calamity occurred.

    Who else was present at the Calamity, and (apparently) died and dispersed its Aether afterwards? Phoenix!

    Now, admittedly, there's apparently some strange amnesia shenanigans going around, and that's why no one mentions Phoenix, or is able to give any details as to what happened at the Calamity. So the conversation might go:

    NPC: When did you fight Phoenix?
    Me: I didn't. I was immersed in its Aether during the Calamity.
    NPC: I don't remember Phoenix at the Calamity!
    Me: I doubt you remember much of anything about the Calamity, just like anyone else.
    NPC: So how do YOU know Phoenix was there?
    Me: Echo.
    NPC: ...oh, okay.
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  4. #24
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    Nobody knows who Phoenix is except you and Alisae, so nobody's going to ask.

    Besides, all Alisae feared is that Eorzeans would figure out that they COULD summon a primal, not anything particular to Phoenix itself. In other words, as long as Eorzeans don't learn that Phoenix was summoned through their prayers, we can walk around with Phoenix all day and it won't be a big deal. In that regard, Phoenix is just any other Egi and hold no other significance, unless we divulge its origins, which we won't.
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  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    Nobody knows who Phoenix is except you and Alisae, so nobody's going to ask.

    Besides, all Alisae feared is that Eorzeans would figure out that they COULD summon a primal, not anything particular to Phoenix itself. In other words, as long as Eorzeans don't learn that Phoenix was summoned through their prayers, we can walk around with Phoenix all day and it won't be a big deal. In that regard, Phoenix is just any other Egi and hold no other significance, unless we divulge its origins, which we won't.
    Would people even believe its origins? "Archon Louisoux used your prayers to become a primal and fly through Dalamud and Bahamut, then was resurrected by Bahamut's brain as a giant fire bird that I killed."
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    Exactly. Besides, who's gonna question you? You're the WoL.
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    Arlo Nine-tails
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocopoko View Post
    I honestly would like this format of 1 long role quest instead of multiple quests unlocked at certain levels. just finished the DRK quest up to 70 and I think the pacing suffered quite a bit :/
    Also, imo, the job quests in SB felt kind of... underwhelming regarding its own dramatic development... It's like, part 1: kill some things... part 2: return to the NPC to kill a couple more things... The real important events always happening at the last phases, close and at level 70. I suppose one big well written quest can achieve a similar result.
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