The reason we healers DPS

[SieyaM]

The rub for me has never been about if healers should DPS at all but the scale of DPS that was being demanded of me even in regular roulettes. I and most healers have no issue with throwing out some damage when we feel we have the time, but a lot of time people want savage level gameplay out of healers queuing up in the DF and you probably just aren't going to get it most of the time. Also there is not content that requires healers to DPS. Unless it has changed, back in HW I think it was stated by Yoshi P that no content is designed with healer DPS taken into account. So if you are failing a DPS check or something, it is not the healers fault.

[Kaedan]

I'm not sure where this idea came from.

From Yoshida during Mr Happy's interview.

He admitted that in 5.0, mobs will in general hit significantly harder than they do now and will require playing more defensively as tank and require more healing from healers, reducing the amount of downtime healers have to dps significantly.

[StarRosie]

Except they didn't? Our heals were already very strong and then SE turned around and said "Here, have even MORE healing ability."

Even what we've seen with the dungeon preview doesn't suggest the incoming damage will be enough to warrant even more healing. Even if it were, there's no way in hell they're adjusting all older content to match.

My only issue there is that you're only looking at one point of the data. The outgoing damage from mobs, but we also have to factor in how the new MP systems will effect us. I was watching some of the media tour stuff and saw some healers start hurting for MP a couple times in the new dungeon. Some of it was overhealing and some of it was overDPSing. And if we remain MP capped, and the dungeons and much later, the raids, through Shadowbringers keep escalating the outgoing damage while our MP reserves stay the same, then I do think we'll hit a point where healer downtime will be less frequent or at best, we might have to be more frugal about our MP. That's just my outlook right now based on what data we have to look at.

You are right though, these changes will have a pretty...not fun effect on older content.

[ReiMakoto]

From Yoshida during Mr Happy's interview.

He admitted that in 5.0, mobs will in general hit significantly harder than they do now and will require playing more defensively as tank and require more healing from healers, reducing the amount of downtime healers have to dps significantly.

So i just went and watched that interview video, and he didn't say anything like that. He said he didn't want to give the impression that dungeons are going to hit way harder and that healer dps is still very important, he just wants more emphasis on healing and didn't want to say anything definitive. The rest is just Happy's interpretation from playing.

[Kaedan]

So i just went and watched that interview video, and he didn't say anything like that. He said he didn't want to give the impression that dungeons are going to hit way harder and that healer dps is still very important, he just wants more emphasis on healing and didn't want to say anything definitive. The rest is just Happy's interpretation from playing.

Mr Happy points out that things hit significantly harder and healing is more necessary, and Yoshida responds that he was surprised he picked up on it so quickly from just the media tour. That they changed so that healers will have to do more healing, and tanks will have to use CD more often.

There were other interviews as well where they mention 5.0 will have significantly less downtime because there is more focus on healing.

[SieyaM]

From Yoshida during Mr Happy's interview.

He admitted that in 5.0, mobs will in general hit significantly harder than they do now and will require playing more defensively as tank and require more healing from healers, reducing the amount of downtime healers have to dps significantly.

What worries me about this is that instead of spamming your damage spell your going to just be spamming a heal, which isn't anymore engaging than the dps aspect, just different.

[AngelCheese77]

Wow, completely opposite of what my husband went through on his SCH back in the day were groups were FORCING him to DPS over heals ...

People are so flippity-floppity

[Lunalepsy]

It's too stressful.

[Maero]

Healers like to dps to mess with the rotations of dps players..






Joking aside, for those that have been healing for sometime it would get boring simply healing. Perhaps come 5.0 however more healing will be required.

[AngelCheese77]

I want to just tell how I heal a dungeon as a WHM (I'm level 63)

So, when in those lower level dungeons where mostly the tanks are wet paper from some reason .... I mainly focus on hitting Cure, and will throw an Aero when I can. I don't focus on doing Stone because those aforementioned wet paper tanks like to get veeery close to zero if I do that.

Of course, you also have those crazy synched down tanks in low level dungeons that like to pull entire rooms and get my anxiety up as I can't hit Cure fast enough. At that point, I have not DPSed at all, and speak up when I know no matter what I do I can't heal fast enough.

I later dungeons it's all about gauging the party. With more regen, group heals, and heavy heals, I throw more DPS in whenever I can. Of course I've been in 8 man's where there was a SCH just DPSing and using faery to heal, which doesn't always work ... those are fun.

Overall, if you get me in your party, know that I HEAL first, DPS second.