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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Care to explain why they made SAM/RDM weapons for Gordias, Midas and Alexander then? There isn't an Ultimate for them nor will the next Ultimate have all three weapons re-skinned. Furthermore, they didn't make new UwU weapons for DRK, AST or MCH. They simply took their AF1 weapon and re-skinned it instead.
    While only SE knows the true answer to this, my guess is:

    RDM/SAM both start at lvl 50, so SE likely felt the need to add weapons to content that's higher than the job's starting level. There's also iconic stuff like primal weapons, which likely get greenlit due to the ease of obtaining them (not sure if they'll stick to this 'tradition' with GNB/DNC though). Could they make some Ultimate weapons for those two jobs? Sure. Will it get priority over weapon models from content that's much more available to the playerbase? Unlikely.

    In the same sense, we'll likely see GNB/SAM weapons from Delta/Sigma/Alphascape, possibly primals, and tomestone weapons.

    As for DRK/AST/MCH. Since those jobs didn't exist back in ARR, they went with their first artifact model introduced alongside those jobs. If they did the same with RDM/SAM, that'd mean reusing a current expansion artifact weapon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    While only SE knows the true answer to this, my guess is:

    RDM/SAM both start at lvl 50, so SE likely felt the need to add weapons to content that's higher than the job's starting level. There's also iconic stuff like primal weapons, which likely get greenlit due to the ease of obtaining them (not sure if they'll stick to this 'tradition' with GNB/DNC though). Could they make some Ultimate weapons for those two jobs? Sure. Will it get priority over weapon models from content that's much more available to the playerbase? Unlikely.

    In the same sense, we'll likely see GNB/SAM weapons from Delta/Sigma/Alphascape, possibly primals, and tomestone weapons.

    As for DRK/AST/MCH. Since those jobs didn't exist back in ARR, they went with their first artifact model introduced alongside those jobs. If they did the same with RDM/SAM, that'd mean reusing a current expansion artifact weapon.
    This person has made the most sense in this thread. You can still ask but I suspect this is the reason as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    While only SE knows the true answer to this, my guess is:

    RDM/SAM both start at lvl 50, so SE likely felt the need to add weapons to content that's higher than the job's starting level. There's also iconic stuff like primal weapons, which likely get greenlit due to the ease of obtaining them (not sure if they'll stick to this 'tradition' with GNB/DNC though). Could they make some Ultimate weapons for those two jobs? Sure. Will it get priority over weapon models from content that's much more available to the playerbase? Unlikely.

    In the same sense, we'll likely see GNB/SAM weapons from Delta/Sigma/Alphascape, possibly primals, and tomestone weapons.

    As for DRK/AST/MCH. Since those jobs didn't exist back in ARR, they went with their first artifact model introduced alongside those jobs. If they did the same with RDM/SAM, that'd mean reusing a current expansion artifact weapon.
    Gunbreaker and Dancer start at level 60; by your argument they should receive ultimate weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calla View Post
    Gunbreaker and Dancer start at level 60; by your argument they should receive ultimate weapons.
    Congrats on not reading past the first sentence of my post. It literally said that GNB/DNC could get Ultimate weapons, just that it's unlikely.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Because they went back and added weapons to a long dead tier that neither Red Mage and Samurai were apart of? The person I quoted said Dancer and Gunbreaker shouldn't have old Ultimate weapons because the devs would have to make new weapons for content people aren't going to be doing as much. As I pointed, they already did that with Alex. The difficulty is entirely irrelevant. So I have no idea why you brought it up.
    Except it is relevant. Players can unsync farm the old raids to obtain glamour weapons when they've overgeared and overleveled the content, making it much easier, and therefore much more accessible.
    Players won't be able to unsync/overgear/overlevel Ultimate content at all, making it way less accessible compared to non-Ultimate content. It's always going to be synced to lvl 70, it's always going to be iLvl synced to i345/i375.
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