Quote Originally Posted by Disc_Hunter View Post
I can't speak for WoW since I never played it enough, but in regards to FF I don't believe this for a second. In nearly 900 dungeons/trials/etc, I can count on my fingers how many people I've met that were consciously holding the group back and refusing to listen to advice. I like venting as much as anyone else, but honestly, I don't get things to vent about often at all. Most players are perfectly adequate, and most runs (I use DF almost exclusively, by the way) go off without a hitch. To insult the game's community by saying they actively put in the least effort possible is disingenuous. Either you're getting way too upset over the occasional troll, or you're intolerant to newer/learning players that are probably going to be very receptive of advice. Most people I've given advice to (easily 95% or more) generally thank me for helping them improve.
I always think I am living in a different world than many forum user
I mean see how many ppl complain about their party or team mate not living up to "standard", yet I run mostly with DF, and i only very seldom see those terrible player. The chance is like only 1 in 50 or even 1 in 100 run I have met someone who isn't trying to do their role properly and refuse to listen for advice