WoW this, WoW that: Why are FFXIV forum users so obsessed with WoW refugees?

[DonovanLifeweaver]

being in ff14 since ARR, i played wow up to the start of cata, and eso from 1.2 up to 2-3 months ago...

ff14 has always been challenging, apply strat or wipe.

i played wow for years. It never was hard, always getting easyer by the day and even more easyer with every contents added. Same for eso, a healer pushing 34k dps with 1 heal skill..... they leave because the game requires always more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more and more..... did i mention those 2 games always ask for more and more and more and more and more and more and more ... mroe more more more more more more more more more more more dps up to a point where the game its just loathsome and toxic to the point where you cant complete content ( as in quests related to dungeons quests) if you dont push 30k as a healer and 50-60k as a dps for eso and in wow you can push that number around from 20k( tank) to 34k dps and roughly 9-12k dps for the top of the ladder healer classes.

now they leave their games, eso and wow... move over to FF14 and they start complaining because the combat mechanic, the dps system, the healing, the dps the tanking and the dps systems and strats are not like wow or eso...
Then SE makes the game easyer to accomodate their wowness and esoness... but its not enough ... more complaining its still too hard the healers dont dps like in wow and eso.... so more easy added to the game and more players come because the game is starting to be like wow and eso. So more people come and complain that its still too hard and that classes and so on are not like in wow and eso..... seen it with step of faith getting a nerf bat in 2.57 because new players didnt want to apply start, because item level//gear score > strat and common sense.
SE even added echo to ease the fight in trials and raids as if those are not easy enough WHEN YOU APPLY THE STRAT ( sry to break the bubble but hard mode titan at item level 70 no wipe and extreme titan at 90 no wipe is doable without echo) and it wasnt enough... the game was still too hard and they made content more and more easy to help this new generation.

recent time. we now have toxic players, those who are not casual( wow and eso weaksauce)but are still thriving to get a challenge out of the game without being hardcore about the game as well and that are priorising their class roles rather than pleasing the dps race theme of the new generation of players ( wow and eso weaksauces). include in toxic type of players: thinking outside the box, wanting to apply strat, asking for strat, and those asking if everyone remembers or knows the strat in order to be of help and not wanting to spend the night chain wiping on something that should no one shoudl be wiping on.


from experience, having dropped 2 fc and got kicked out of one for standing my ground on the use of healers heal before dpsing.....i wont mind landing my dots and throwing a stone when there is nothing to do but..... sadly not pushing 503948 tetragazbillion dps as a white mage does seem to offend alot of dpsers that relies solely on the healers to make the dps check for the entire raid force..... and i have seen my fair share of: man this game need to be more like wow....

By the way wow and eso are nothing more than a dps race and ff14 definitly needs to turn its back on the wow and eso style of gameplay

[edit] also complaints on the part of wow and eso players: ff14 needs to adopt the eso( buy to pay for dlc every 3 weeks and wow sub mode aka become a rmt and play freely by buying game time with golds..... this also is to be included in the toxic player base: if you want the game to remain pay per month you are toxic.

[2nd edit] if oyu complain so much that ff14 is nothing like wow and eso... why did you runaways fled from wow and eso in the first place?!?!? if it's to repeat what caused you to "flee" those games why the hell do you want to see that same thing you fled to reappear in ff14?