Does anyone actually enjoy guildleves?

[Dubont]

He will encourage socializing by just that *encouraging* for sure he won't remove solo content to *force* people to socialize. Not gonna happen.



And who exactly are you to say who should and shouldn't play a game commercially available to everyone?

MMO: Massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) is a genre of role-playing video games in which a very large number of players interact with one another within a virtual game world. There is no interaction going on here. Who am I to say that if you can't meet the requirements of a MMO that you shouldn't play it? I'm an avid MMO player and even on games that ARE more solo based, there is a better community because there is actually an advantage to it knowing more people and doing more group based actions. In 14, there is almost nothing that requires random groups or parties. This, again, is not how a MMO should be played. MMOs are there for people to interact with each other and help each other out. This is almost completely absent in 14. Am I saying remove ALL solo aspects of the game? No. What I AM saying is that they need to make the game LESS soloable and more group oriented. For example, you should be able to solo to about...20, then from there you should need to get a party for any decent exp, but still be able to solo, just for about 1/3rd of the exp per hour. This will not only encourage parties and socializing, but it will also help build a community within the game. This whole "We need to be able to solo everything!" attitude needs to stop. If you want to solo everything, go play a different game. There hasn't been a single FF where everything was soloable. EVERY FF had a party, why should this one be different?

[Chezen]

He will encourage socializing by just that *encouraging* for sure he won't remove solo content to *force* people to socialize. Not gonna happen.

I would hope not.

This was over 2 months ago. I have yet to see anything that has required any amount of a social activity outside of a LS. Hell, you cant even start up the random shout discussions anymore. In 11, I remember people would sit in Jeuno or whitegate and just talk for hours about some random crap. Does 14 have that? No...everyone keeps to themselves and most shouts go unanswered.

Two months is not that long. Especially when two weeks of it have been in a standstill. Things take time. It's not like more content was sitting in a can on the back shelf.

[Malakhim]

...It's not like more content was sitting in a can on the back shelf.

Not to get involved in this particular debate, but I personally think the jury's still out on that one.

Of course that's neither here nor there at this point.

[Abriael]

MMO: Massively multiplayer online role-playing game (MMORPG) is a genre of role-playing video games in which a very large number of players interact with one another within a virtual game world.

Even just talking is a form of interaction. I see people talking, grouping and "Interacting" together all the time. You don't need to *force* people to follow your playstyle in order to have interaction. Sorry.

[Dubont]

Even just talking is a form of interaction. I see people talking, grouping and "Interacting" together all the time. You don't need to *force* people to follow your playstyle in order to have interaction. Sorry.

grouping with your LS is one thing, grouping with random people is another. Your FL shouldn't consist of only people in your LS. Yes, you DO need to force people to group. If you don't, the game will end up like WoW and Alloids. Everyone solos until endgame THEN they decide to group up, but it's usually with their guilds so again...there's no community. If you want a solo game, go play a solo game and stay away from MMOs which are meant for group play.

Essentially what I'm saying is GTFO CASUALs. -.-

[darkstarpoet1]

i enjoy them, but my enjoyment comes from multiple hour parties that is hard to get a bunch of people together to just grind. i think the leves should have more of a selection, but i do enjoy the time in a party doing them.

[Abriael]

grouping with your LS is one thing, grouping with random people is another. Your FL shouldn't consist of only people in your LS.

My FL actually has no one in my LS, it's full of other people. I group with people outside my LS quite often, when i *want* to.

Essentially what I'm saying is GTFO CASUALs. -.-

Casuals paid for this game as much as you do. At that you have absolutely no right or reason to tell them "GTFO".

[Vix]

Except that it's not. I didn't mention XI...

oh. well if you expected a complete MMO at launch, then I guess you win.

[Chezen]

but I personally think the jury's still out on that one.

I'm just curious, what do you mean?

I'm not trying to debate anything either, I was just trying to point out there is no reason for this one. Yoshi-san will address group play. He will simply because it's the Japanese thing to do, even if he hadn't said he would. It doesn't mean, nor do I believe he will, put a stop to solo play, as that was a big part of FFXI not getting more players.

[Dubont]

My FL actually has no one in my LS, it's full of other people. I group with people outside my LS quite often, when i *want* to.



Casuals paid for this game as much as you do. At that you have absolutely no right or reason to tell them "GTFO".

Casuals did pay for the game, yes, but they shouldn't have. Would if be right for me to go into a 400 level College course, without taking any of the previous courses, and tell them they need to stoop the class down to my level because I paid for it? What do you think will happen? MMOs shouldn't cater to the single player people because MMOs aren't MEANT to be single player games. There is a reason that they are called MMOs. Honestly, why would you play a MMO if you aren't going to take advantage of the ONLINE aspect of it? It's like buying a COD game just for the single player campaign. If you want a single player game, I'm pretty sure that there are a couple copies of donkey kong for the Wii floating around. You might want to try that =) OR, you can stay on FFXIV and when they start charging, you can kindly leave...since casuals rarely play P2P games because their mommies refuse to hand over the check book every month =)

tl;dr ? GTFO and go back to offline console