Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[zeylos]

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@Theodoric, I haven't been aggressive towards those wanting a more masculine look that I can remember, and if I have, then I apologize for that. Then, I wasn't sure about what you meant with classically handsome, and wanted to understand
Oh and btw, I'd like male viera to be quite beefy too SE

Like I said, my wordings weren't correct, and in my native language saying to a men that they don't look like men, is very offensive, and I'm obviously not as familiar with english as most of you probably are, so I apologize if I sounded aggressive or something like that

[Theodric]

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If that is disrespectful then it is also disrespectful for people to bash masculine aesthetics, though there has been a lot of that throughout the thread's existence with very little backlash. I'm not looking for an argument and I have stated frequently that I am fine with Viera having one androgynous/feminine facial option to appease those who desire it.

I don't, however, want Viera men to be hijacked to the point where they look feminine across the board - which is what some people here are pushing for. I'm also not sure why you're bringing up revealing racial gear when a few pages back you agreed with my suggestion for them to be clad in a loincloth. I don't have an issue with the men wearing revealing attire so long as it isn't just a copy and paste of the female gear.

[Berret_Snow]

If that is disrespectful then it is also disrespectful for people to bash masculine aesthetics, though there has been a lot of that throughout the thread's existence with very little backlash. I'm not looking for an argument and I have stated frequently that I am fine with Viera having one androgynous/feminine facial option to appease those who desire it.

I don't, however, want Viera men to be hijacked to the point where they look feminine across the board - which is what some people here are pushing for. I'm also not sure why you're bringing up revealing racial gear when a few pages back you agreed with my suggestion for them to be clad in a loincloth. I don't have an issue with the men wearing revealing attire so long as it isn't just a copy and paste of the female gear.

Bashing the masculine aesthethic has been this thread's go to since the start.

[Amnmaat]

Bashing the masculine aesthethic has been this thread's go to since the start.

Compare this to the (Female) Viera request thread where we never went into "I want them to look like Beyonce, big butts, super pretty face."

[Crushnight]

Tbh all sides have been at each other for what the male viera COULD look like and putting down anyone with an opposing opinion so all i am going to ask is that 1 out of the 4 faces be allowed to be customizable to look feminine/androgynous just like the females can do with a more masculine appearance.

[Lauront]

First of all, femenine men does look like men, and that comment isn't just completely unnecessary but also comes as rather disrespectful.

There is clearly a point where some "feminine" men do cross the point where they don't really look like men anymore, and in some cases that is the entire point. Not sure how it's "disrespectful" to state as much, although those were your words more than his.

[Veis_Alveare]

First of all, femenine men does look like men, and that comment isn't just completely unnecessary but also comes as rather disrespectful.

Then, just what is this classically handsome thing you seem to want so much? If you mean masculine looks, every single race in the game other than lalafell and roegadyn has at least 1 masculine and 1 femenine face, and dont expect that to change with male vieras. You will also most likely get a voice that's probably meant for a male roe. Then, if its because you don't want revealing racial, I must say that while I won't really put my char on a plated bikini, seeing what the females got, its oly fair

Feminine men, by the literal definitions of the words you're using here, look less like men. Feminine literally means "resembling or reminiscent of females" which means... not masculine. Feminine and masculine are opposites.

Saying that isn't being disrespectful it's just understanding English. Any given person has masculine and feminine traits to them but at a certain point you start getting into things that are just biologically different (facial hair, brow ridge, fat distribution) and these things are more or less mutually exclusive between the genders. Someone saying they want Viera men who fit the baseline of masculinity (wherever that may be) isn't being disrespectful they just don't want men who look like women. That's pretty fair and normal to most people.