Dear Naoki Yoshida and the Battle Development Team,

[Risvertasashi]

My god I wish I could like this post a million times. The headless chicken bandwagon on the forums is so silly. I'm not happy with all the changes but saying stuff like "sch is gutted" and "all healers are the same now" is an incredible exaggeration. Unless I missed the memo about how sch lost most of its old mechanics, and how all healers now have fairies, aetherflow, cards, healer stances and lilies? Hmmm. Somehow I don't think so.

I think most people are referring to the DPS side of healers. Which is very homogenized.

Each healer gets 1 filler nuke, 1 DoT, and 1 AOE. There are slight differences such as Holy and Art of War being point blank while Gravity can be casted at range, but it's still overall very very similar.

Now for a slightly more spicy take:

SCH needed to be nerfed, and hard. Even with all the nerfs, it's likely strong enough to stay meta. Where it's been since forever. The job is clearly OP as hell. That said, I think it was fine to have a healer with a more complex DPS rotation, for those that want a more complex rotation. SE could have nerfed it a bit so it wasn't also the most powerful healer rotation for personal DPS, but maintained the complexity.

Now, you have essentially the same rotation no matter which healer you play.

But yeah, there are still unique elements with things like pet, cards, oGCDs that aren't shared between healers.

Also those that are like if main healers quit it won't matter. Imagine doing harder fights with not as experienced healers. People will get frustrated quick if they can't get a healer for ex that can heal and do the mechs.

Exactly this happened at the start of stormblood, too. People have short memories...

[Freerider]

I mean I'm a healer main and I won't quit being one I just am worried I'm going to be scrapping my co-healers off the floor.

[Penthea]

I think most people are referring to the DPS side of healers. Which is very homogenized.

Each healer gets 1 filler nuke, 1 DoT, and 1 AOE. There are slight differences such as Holy and Art of War being point blank while Gravity can be casted at range, but it's still overall very very similar.

That's not even too dissimilar to how it is now. Right now ast and whm have a very similar dps kit. Sch is the odd one out because it shares its base class with a dps job. All its extra dps tools are a byproduct of that.

Also we didn't see a gigantic wave of asts and whms complaining about the homogeneity and lack of complexity in their dps rotations. Somehow it's only bad if this happens to sch. Hrmm. Funny isn't it. It's almost as if people are actually raging because something op is being balanced.

SE could have nerfed it a bit so it wasn't also the most powerful healer rotation for personal DPS, but maintained the complexity.

Then people would complain that they would have to put in more work for the same numbers as other healers. They could have made all healer rotations more complex with less damage but again, people would complain about too much work for not enough return.

And come on...the current sch dps rotation isn't complex. Setting up dots and doing broil spam with aetherflow here and there is not complex at all. Anyone who finds this complex would struggle to play an actual dps.

For the record I'm not happy about sch dps becoming even more boring than it is now, but at the same time I am aware that it needed to be nerfed, that sch is a healer and if I want complexity in a dps rotation then I should play a dps.

[Risvertasashi]

Also we didn't see a gigantic wave of asts and whms complaining about the homogeneity and lack of complexity in their dps rotations. Somehow it's only bad if this happens to sch. Hrmm. Funny isn't it. It's almost as if people are actually raging because something op is being balanced.

In fact ASTs have been complaining about 1 nuke + 1 dot for the whole of stormblood. Stop by the healer forums a little more often?

Then people would complain that they would have to put in more work for the same numbers as other healers. They could have made all healer rotations more complex with less damage but again, people would complain about too much work for not enough return.

Fair point.

And come on...the current sch dps rotation isn't complex. Setting up dots and doing broil spam with aetherflow here and there is not complex at all. Anyone who finds this complex would struggle to play an actual dps.

Well they probably wouldn't struggle with red mage. And yeah, I wouldn't call it super complex. But there's more to it than you say. When to use M2 so you can weave, and some other nuances.

But yeah it's not that complex.

[Penthea]

In fact ASTs have been complaining about 1 nuke + 1 dot for the whole expac. Stop by the healer forums a little more often?

Read my post properly. I said "a gigantic wave". Some asts complaining on the healer forums isn't the same as reddit and the general forums here being flooded with complaints related to healers. This is what I meant.

Well they probably wouldn't struggle with red mage. And yeah, I wouldn't call it super complex. But there's more to it than you say. When to use M2 so you can weave, and some other nuances.

But yeah it's not that complex.

No. It's not complex at all. Anyone who says it is complex is trying to give it more gameplay value than it has, or doesn't actually understand what it is like to play with a proper dps rotation.

And before anyone asks yes I completely agree that the current state of whm and ast dps is incredibly dull. Again I'm emphasise that I'm not happy with sch's dps being brought down to that level, but I also understand that it was needed for balance without compromising the return of numbers per spell casted.

EDIT: yes I do understand that there is potential complexity involved with weaving dps along with healing, but I have seen a lot of arguments against the sch's nerfs being "lower lvl content is going to be boring with the new rotation" and that sort of environment isn't exactly where you would be doing the height of complexity with weaving dps and healing. Some people like to argue that even in instances where sch is doing nothing but dps the rotation is complex anyway...which is absolutely not the case.

[RyuDragnier]

Exactly this happened at the start of stormblood, too. People have short memories...

Also at the beginning of ARR, and HW. This is completely normal, terrifyingly enough.