Job Specific gear and dyes.

[DeadRiser]

Now customization means I want to be totally unique from everyone else. I love how people put words in my mouth.

Some kind of difference between people would work fine, LIKE I SAID BEFORE. It doesn't have to be extreme, just a subtle difference would be cool. It's funny because people are so against change in a game. Since everyone can simply PL to 50 now, everyone will have it.

[syntaxlies]

Now customization means I want to be totally unique from everyone else. I love how people put words in my mouth.

Some kind of difference between people would work fine, LIKE I SAID BEFORE. It doesn't have to be extreme, just a subtle difference would be cool. It's funny because people are so against change in a game. Since everyone can simply PL to 50 now, everyone will have it.

im under the impression that this gear will take awhile to get, so much so that by the time everyone has it new gear will be out. I may be wrong but this is what im basing my decision on to say i would not like it to b dyed.Hopefully some different variations of job gear. Also I would speculate that some future primals and dungeons will drop some job gear so you can customize your look with some dif pieces.

[darkstarpoet1]

Now customization means I want to be totally unique from everyone else. I love how people put words in my mouth.

Some kind of difference between people would work fine, LIKE I SAID BEFORE. It doesn't have to be extreme, just a subtle difference would be cool. It's funny because people are so against change in a game. Since everyone can simply PL to 50 now, everyone will have it.

there's no use trying to talk and hope people like jennestia can understand. they don't even understand customize does not mean unique.

i get a car and i add a set of rims to it then i customized the car even if there is 5mil other cars with the same exact rim. being able to customize something is nothing more than altering the default. it could be something as simple as adding the fuzzy dice on the rear view mirror to having a complete paint job and system installed. they are both customizing.

[Elexia]

there's no use trying to talk and hope people like jennestia can understand. they don't even understand customize does not mean unique.

Customization does mean different, that's why you customize things to make it different (i.e unique). As I said though, this is why SE can't really do anything with this game because people are complaining about non-issues like this.

Also:

being able to customize something is nothing more than altering the default

So, in other words, being different from one another? Since you seem the type to try to tell others what they do and do not understand:

Definition of different:

Not the same as another or each other;
Distinct; separate

If you change your car rims, i.e customizing, doesn't that mean it's different from the default and quite likely different from someone else who may have the same car...? Seriously, this is the only MMO forum I've ever seen where people would get pissed off over not being able to change the color of something even though people playing other MMORPGs never complain that top gear sets usually look a like as is.

[syntaxlies]

Customization does mean different, that's why you customize things to make it different (i.e unique). As I said though, this is why SE can't really do anything with this game because people are complaining about non-issues like this.

Also:



So, in other words, being different from one another? Since you seem the type to try to tell others what they do and do not understand:

Definition of different:


If you change your car rims, i.e customizing, doesn't that mean it's different from the default and quite likely different from someone else who may have the same car...? Seriously, this is the only MMO forum I've ever seen where people would get pissed off over not being able to change the color of something even though people playing other MMORPGs never complain that top gear sets usually look a like as is.

like i already said customization does not mean different. If something becomes different from somehting else via customization it is merely a side effect. At the same time it could become the same as somehting else. So does this mean it means same and different at the same time.

cus·tom·ize
   [kuhs-tuh-mahyz] Show IPA
verb (used with object) -ized, -iz·ing.
to modify or build according to individual or personal specifications or preference: to customize an automobile.


example:I saw a picture in a magazine of a car and i customized mine to look just like it.

please do not twist and contort actual definitions to suit your own needs, its a pet peeve of mine.

[Jennestia]

It's funny because people are so against change in a game.

Majority of players agreed for FFXIV to be overhauled, so I see no one against change in a game -- Where did SE state you will no longer be able to dye non-JSE gear? That would be a change in the game because you can dye gear now, then they make it so you can no longer dye any armor set -- Then you should be complaining.

Not being able to dye JSE gear isn't a problem, it's one set of armor, they're not taking away the ability to dye other gear in the game. Everyone can power level to 50 now and wear cobalt armor that you see everywhere, why aren't you complaining about that? Because they can change the color of it..?

[Elexia]

like i already said customization does not mean different. If something becomes different from somehting else via customization it is merely a side effect. At the same time it could become the same as somehting else. So does this mean it means same and different at the same time.

cus·tom·ize
   [kuhs-tuh-mahyz] Show IPA
verb (used with object) -ized, -iz·ing.
to modify or build according to individual or personal specifications or preference: to customize an automobile.


example:I saw a picture in a magazine of a car and i customized mine to look just like it.

please do not twist and contort actual definitions to suit your own needs, its a pet peeve of mine.

But you also customize to change performance, since we're sticking with the car example, if you customize your car chances are your car won't look nor perform like when you purchased it from a dealership/friend/stranger/etc. I don't see any twisting of anything, more like people ignoring the fact that customization is usually done to try to be different from others, this is why MMOs allow you to place tattoos, markings, unique hairstyles, voices etc. That's why you can customize your character in great lengths in some of them.

This is why not being able to change the color of a JSE set isn't stemming customization, you'll have other options to be dyed, which even Yoshida says crafted gear is where you should look for dying and stat customizing (Materia.)

[syntaxlies]

But you also customize to change performance, since we're sticking with the car example, if you customize your car chances are your car won't look nor perform like when you purchased it from a dealership/friend/stranger/etc. I don't see any twisting of anything, more like people ignoring the fact that customization is usually done to try to be different from others, this is why MMOs allow you to place tattoos, markings, unique hairstyles, voices etc. That's why you can customize your character in great lengths in some of them.

This is why not being able to change the color of a JSE set isn't stemming customization, you'll have other options to be dyed, which even Yoshida says crafted gear is where you should look for dying and stat customizing (Materia.)

the fact that you can customize something to look exactly like something else completely voids the relation of the word customize and different. Like i said if it becomes different it is just a side effect. If everyone on earth customize4d the same car with the same colors and same rims, they would still be customized even though they are all the same.

If you buy a house and there are only 2 dif types of floors to pick from but you get to pick, you customized it. In that development 50% of the houses will have the same floor as yours, but it is still custom.

Im only arguing this point so we are all talking about the facts from he same perspective. If one person thinks a word means one thing and someone else thinks it meas something else then you are already on 2 different pages and shouldn't even have a discussion together.

[darkstarpoet1]

now maybe riser sees exactly what i meant by it's no use trying to explain anything to them.

last example already in game.

you customize your action bar. do you do it to be different from someone else? no, it means you set actions to where they are most suitable to you.

you customize your point allotments. do you do it to be different from someone else? no, you put points in the stats you want depending on class and role in the party.

you customize your chat logs. do you do it to be different from someone else? no, you customize it for your liking or what is needed at the time.(example: only enemy actions for ifrit fights)

to customize anything it does not matter if it is the same thing as someone else. it is strictly based on what someone wants. yes, it means to be different than what the default settings are, but it does not matter if it is the same or different than someone else.

does anyone remember why they said they were going to allow you to dye gear? it was to be able to customize it to personal choices. there's only 9 colors in the game so if you dye something black because you want black there will be thousands that make the same choice. turning an item a different color isn't about standing apart from others. it's about customizing things to your liking.

anyways no matter how many times you show people what you mean some will still not be intelligent enough to understand it.

[Belial]

Player A "customizes" their cobalt set to be blue. Player B "customizes" their cobalt set to be blue.

Both Player A & Player B now look the same, not different, despite customizing their aesthetic look to their preference.

/end "Customization" debate.

You are not a unique snowflake.