You did it, Squeenix. I didn't think you could, but you did.

[Jandor]

The more I look at it, the worse it looks.

& seriously SE, I don't like Warrior, I don't like Fell Cleave. You don't need to give every tank a poor imitation of this particular gimmick.

Edit: & I liked Dark Arts, it needed dialling back a tad but not totally removing. It was an interesting idea.

[Age_of_Oblivion]

You guys are looking at this all wrong. SE wants to balance class demographics to be more aligned with the lore. For Dark Knight, that means putting them in a terrible position of being rare, isolated, and crippled by doubts. It’s a fantastic blending of gameplay and worldbuilding - everything is just worse for Dark Knights, the way God intended.

[Nivarea]

I liked Dark Arts, it needed dialling back a tad but not totally removing. It was an interesting idea.

^This.

What's more is that they basically replaced Dark Arts spam with Edge/Flood. They got the same role as mana dump, just that they're weaponskill instead of a skill buff. If it stays as it is in the media-tour build, it seem we can't really spam them tho (5/6 at most per minute).

[UnitedWeSTand]

^This.

What's more is that they basically replaced Dark Arts spam with Edge/Flood. They got the same role as mana dump, just that they're weaponskill instead of a skill buff. If it stays as it is in the media-tour build, it seem we can't really spam them tho (5/6 at most per minute).

Optimistic. You can get 5/6 in when you have your delirum and bloodweapon procs up every 3 minutes. Otherwise you're at best getting 2 or 3 per minute. At least from the calculations I did.

[Agner]

I’m on the edge of switching and it pisses me off.

You stand at the precipice, but do not fear the fall.

Cast yourself into the abyss, and you shall soar above, free at last.

(I'll be doing the same. Gimped damage or not, I'd prefer to actually have fun when playing the role I like.)

[DRKoftheAzure]

You guys are looking at this all wrong. SE wants to balance class demographics to be more aligned with the lore. For Dark Knight, that means putting them in a terrible position of being rare, isolated, and crippled by doubts. It’s a fantastic blending of gameplay and worldbuilding - everything is just worse for Dark Knights, the way God intended.

And suddenly the WoL then goes so bats*** insane to the point they become Deadpool... and I REALLY HOPE that's not the name of the level 80 title or the plot of the DRK lvl 80 quest...

[Big-Isaac]

That's what you get when you're dealing with a dev prone to overly simple solutions and wine at them about how "spammy" Dark Arts is for an entire expansion.
"People think the API is too high? Well slow it down, then"
Grats

That said, it doesn't look like the speed of the job would be too hard to fix. Just bump the MP generation back up to how it was in SB - Syphon Strike restoring 3000 MP, Quietus 600 MP per enemy, Bloodweapon 300 MP for every GCD, oGCD and auto attack, etc.

It seems like Fray mode is a bit of a lost cause though. This is the type of mechanic that you could build an entire job around, but it seems like it's just a glorified DoT with no interactions. Bit of a shame

So in summation:
DRK is slow and boring, PLD is static and boring, and I don't like WAR
So it's either GNB or skip the expansion for me.

[Otorinth]

That's what you get when you're dealing with a dev prone to overly simple solutions and wine at them about how "spammy" Dark Arts is for an entire expansion.
"People think the API is too high? Well slow it down, then"
Grats

That said, it doesn't look like the speed of the job would be too hard to fix. Just bump the MP generation back up to how it was in SB - Syphon Strike restoring 3000 MP, Quietus 600 MP per enemy, Bloodweapon 300 MP for every GCD, oGCD and auto attack, etc.

It seems like Fray mode is a bit of a lost cause though. This is the type of mechanic that you could build an entire job around, but it seems like it's just a glorified DoT with no interactions. Bit of a shame

So in summation:
DRK is slow and boring, PLD is static and boring, and I don't like WAR
So it's either GNB or skip the expansion for me.

You do realize that Flood/Edge/The Blackest Night all cost 3000 MP right? Every time you hit Siphonstrike, you would get 500 potency. That's kind of busted.

[Basrasa]

For me it only shows one thing and it’s that SE designed this job strictly for a heavensward playstyle mindset and that they struggle to change it compare to other jobs. Getting rid of ogcds/dot, transforming skills into other jobs ones, keeping that magic reduction on cds. They’re really going in the wrong direction and they don’t seem to get it.

[Keagian]

At this point I've come to accept that DRK is gonna be garbage for another expansion and already prepping the switch to GNB. We were promised that they would fix it and make it better but instead they just made it worst, I'm even reconsidering getting this expansion due to the homogenization their doing to all jobs just because their lazy and don't wanna take the time and effort to make something enjoyable by taking risks and instead they always choose the easy route.