Kneejerk reaction to PLD changes.

[MaraD_]

You do have 20% mitigation when covering as an OT. This is because the mitigation trait that replaces tank stance's 20% mitigation is still there when off tanking.

When everyone's super, no one's super.

I'm sure you see the flaw in that logic.

[Cabalabob]

Cover can definitely be used in a planned way. It was used in t13 on a melee for the earthshakers, stopped the puddles from forming on the ground and let the melee continue dpsing.

Can't say for the omega raids, as I took a break from tanking with 4.0

That would fall under niche strats. It’s not like in SB where cover could be used on the MT in place of a swap, basically allowing PLD to use cover in any and every fight where there would be a tank swap. Now, you can only use it in certain fights in certain situations. Like covering puddles in T13, or covering a ranged in O11s, that’s two fights over the course of 3 expansions where cover is used on someone other than the MT, definition of niche.

[Jeeqbit]

I'm sure you see the flaw in that logic.

There is no flaw in the logic.

Right now, OTs in Sword Oath that Cover get 20% mitigation from Cover itself.

In future, OTs that Cover will get that 20% mitigation because they have it already in their traits.

[Dalmacus]

That would fall under niche strats. It’s not like in SB where cover could be used on the MT in place of a swap, basically allowing PLD to use cover in any and every fight where there would be a tank swap. Now, you can only use it in certain fights in certain situations. Like covering puddles in T13, or covering a ranged in O11s, that’s two fights over the course of 3 expansions where cover is used on someone other than the MT, definition of niche.

Um, the first half of seiryu EX fight and some latter where you need to tank swap because of cursekeeper debuff. PLD can use cover here to take away cursekeeper from MT and then break off the cover line while still able to DPS which help reduce tank swap.
Another is O11S JP strat for omega when the 2nd mustard bomb hits MT because of cover mitigation the PLD here is able to survive. I don't know what NA/EU strats are but in JP PLD here pretty much use cover extensively.

[Bright-Flower]

There is no flaw in the logic.

Right now, OTs in Sword Oath that Cover get 20% mitigation from Cover itself.

In future, OTs that Cover will get that 20% mitigation because they have it already in their traits.

Yeah, something to keep in mind when talking about 5.x mitigation is full time benefit from old tank stance defense.

[Jandor]

Cover seems pretty useless now. Yes you could use it to avoid doing some tank swaps before, but seeing as there is no pressing need to avoid having PLD take the MT position anymore, why would you?

[Cabalabob]

Um, the first half of seiryu EX fight and some latter where you need to tank swap because of cursekeeper debuff. PLD can use cover here to take away cursekeeper from MT and then break off the cover line while still able to DPS which help reduce tank swap.
Another is O11S JP strat for omega when the 2nd mustard bomb hits MT because of cover mitigation the PLD here is able to survive. I don't know what NA/EU strats are but in JP PLD here pretty much use cover extensively.

Read again, carefully this time.

[Dalmacus]

It’s not like in SB where cover could be used on the MT in place of a swap, basically allowing PLD to use cover in any and every fight where there would be a tank swap.

I've read. I only listed two because it's recent content and i can't remember the past content and also i stated I don't know what NA/EU strats are but in JP PLD here pretty much use cover extensively.
It may be niche to you maybe because you hardly use it, don't want to use it or can't be bothered with it but that does not apply to others.

[Cabalabob]

I've read. I only listed two because it's recent content and i can't remember the past content and also i stated I don't know what NA/EU strats are but in JP PLD here pretty much use cover extensively.
It may be niche to you maybe because you hardly use it, don't want to use it or can't be bothered with it but that does not apply to others.

What you quoted literally says in Stormblood PLD uses cover all the time....

NOW, in shadowbringers, it won’t be used anymore because it has been nerfed.

[Galactimus]

Just in case people didn't know:

The buff from Passage of Arms is applied to your entire party instantly and lasts for 5-6 seconds.
Therefore you can pop passage and immediately start attacking the boss, and the buff will still remain on your party as the raid-wide damage goes out.

You don't have to stand still with passage up and wait for the raid-wide buster to hit you.