It's official, SCH/WHM have two DPS spells from level 6-80

[Deceptus]

Picking a healer and getting even a couple DPS skills? Nice! <3

That was my reaction when I picked up Conjurer.

If you have a point then please make it more clear.

You make sound like healers have never had dps options ever before.

You realize every MMO ever made has given healers some sort of DPS option because they have to level somehow right? Most video games give healers some sort of damage option for when the party is full hp.

The point is, we used to have lots of options and varying levels of complexity that rewarded good, skillful play.

Now we don't.

[Brandedblade]

SCH-
Broil III:Filler Nuke (280 potency)
Biolysis: Dot (600 total potency assuming 60 every 3 seconds for 30 seconds)/Double weaving option
Ruin II: 200 potency nuke/Double weaving option.
Art of War: 150 potency aoe nuke/double weaving option.

WHM
Glare: Filler Nuke (300 potency)
Dia: Dot/Double weaving option (120 potency upfront plus 600 total potency dot- 720 total potency)
Holy: 140 potency aoe nuke + Stun
Assize:400 potency aoe nuke on 45 second cooldown. (Can be woven)
Afflatus misery:900 potency aoe nuke w/falloff/Double weaving option (gated by a psuedo 90 sec cooldown)

Idk fam these look like more then 2 dps skills to me.

[Vivian_Vex]

You realize every MMO ever made has given healers some sort of DPS option because they have to level somehow right?

The point is, we used to have lots of options and varying levels of complexity that rewarded good, skillful play.

Now we don't.

She says, with absolutely no experience to back up said claim.

[Jollyy5]

Picking a healer and getting even a couple DPS skills? Nice! <3

That was my reaction when I picked up Conjurer.

If you have a point then please make it more clear.

First of all: You do know how healing works in this game, right?

Second of all: Go and read literally any half-decent healer's posts on the healer forums and you'll know what the problem is.

[Vivian_Vex]

First of all: You do know how healing works in this game, right?

Second of all: Go and read literally any half-decent healer's posts on the healer forums and you'll know what the problem is.

You say to a level 70 White Mage. yes I know how healing works in this game.

Oh you mean the ones that are endlessly complaining on and on about stuff that in the end will mean very little?

[Jollyy5]

You say to a level 70 White Mage. yes I know how healing works in this game.

Oh you mean the ones that are endlessly complaining on and on about stuff that in the end will mean very little?

Sorry, highlighted the important bit.

[Raees]

She says, with absolutely no experience to back up said claim.

What are you even talking about? Are there super secret abilities coming that you are expecting? SCH lost 2 dots, one of which was a spammable aoe, a ogcd mana return dps spell that could be weaved, an aoe dot spreader, a ground target aoe, and now aether flow has 0 interation with dps in any way. I went from meaningful decisions to a 21111 rotation on a 30 sec repeat solo leveling. It is this way for 74, thats seventy four, levels and does not get better. You are replying as if dungeons and raids are the only content a healing class had to do. Now I will absolutely not be taking my healer through the MSQ and most likely not leveling it at all. WHM lost an aoe dot and nerfed holy (under 7-8 mobs) and gained 1 dps ability on a 90 second rotation. Every healer class now has 2-3buttons that are just spammed. No complexity, nothing interesting at all.

Saying "wait and see" as if we cant already see the entirety of the kit in front of us is pretty silly. And frankly, even if they "wanted healers to actually heal" all they had to do was change encounter design to increase damage output. Neutering the dps kit was NOT NEEDED in any way to achieve that goal. So we sacrificed compelling solo and group gameplay in favor of a glowy pet.

[Sebazy]

You say to a level 70 White Mage. yes I know how healing works in this game.

I don't mean this in a disrespectful manner, but I don't believe that you have much end game experience? Healing casual content is very different to the end game in Savage/Ultimate.

[Deceptus]

SCH-
Broil III:Filler Nuke (280 potency)
Biolysis: Dot (600 total potency assuming 60 every 3 seconds for 30 seconds)/Double weaving option
Ruin II: 200 potency nuke/Double weaving option.
Art of War: 150 potency aoe nuke/double weaving option.

WHM
Glare: Filler Nuke (300 potency)
Dia: Dot/Double weaving option (120 potency upfront plus 600 total potency dot- 720 total potency)
Holy: 140 potency aoe nuke + Stun
Assize:400 potency aoe nuke on 45 second cooldown. (Can be woven)
Afflatus misery:900 potency aoe nuke w/falloff/Double weaving option (gated by a psuedo 90 sec cooldown)

Idk fam these look like more then 2 dps skills to me.

Assize lost it's damage. Afflatus requires a blood lily (90s of battle) AoE doesn't matter unless you're in dungeons.

[Deceptus]

She says, with absolutely no experience to back up said claim.

Look at my character card, hell look at my profile if you want to. I've been here since ARR and played 85% of the content. (I don't do ultimates)