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    Timeline Issue With "Choices and Paths" (Stormblood Monk Spoilers)

    In the spirit of the thread about the Astrologian job quests and their discrepancies with the timescale of the characters, I thought I should make one about this inconsistency I noticed with the Monk job quest "Choices and Paths."

    In this quest, we learn that the Griffin who calls himself "Theobald" and claims to be the heir to King Theodoric is actually a former brother monk of Widargelt's named Adri.

    Quote Originally Posted by Widargelt
    Something else has been bothering me, Professor. About Theobald. His polearm techniques are distinct. I have seen them before. But when? Where?

    'Twas a long time ago. When the Temple of the Fist still stood.

    <gasp> No... It couldn't possibly be...Adri?
    Quote Originally Posted by Widargelt
    A brother at the Temple of the Fist. And the closest thing I had to family. I had thought him dead. Slain when the temple was razed.
    However, this line doesn't make sense when compared to the time when the Temple of the Fist was razed. Encyclopædia Eorzea pg. 221 gives Widargelt Beake's age as twenty-six, and pages 052, 175, and 220 state that the Temple of the Fist was razed in 1552 of the Sixth Astral Era, which was twenty-five years ago. Adri's biography on page 122 of Encyclopædia Eorzea II also reiterates that it was the Temple of the Fist and that Adri was thirteen at the time.

    Widargelt probably shouldn't be able to remember something as specific as a fighting style when he was one year old, I think there might be an error here. The first lorebook gave Widargelt's hiding place as "a remote temple of the Fist of Rhalgr," was it intended to be a different, unnamed temple that we don't see instead? If so, is it possible to fix these lines of dialogue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RomildaRayne View Post
    In the spirit of the thread about the Astrologian job quests and their discrepancies with the timescale of the characters, I thought I should make one about this inconsistency I noticed with the Monk job quest "Choices and Paths."

    In this quest, we learn that the Griffin who calls himself "Theobald" and claims to be the heir to King Theodoric is actually a former brother monk of Widargelt's named Adri.




    However, this line doesn't make sense when compared to the time when the Temple of the Fist was razed. Encyclopædia Eorzea pg. 221 gives Widargelt Beake's age as twenty-six, and pages 052, 175, and 220 state that the Temple of the Fist was razed in 1552 of the Sixth Astral Era, which was twenty-five years ago. Adri's biography on page 122 of Encyclopædia Eorzea II also reiterates that it was the Temple of the Fist and that Adri was thirteen at the time.

    Widargelt probably shouldn't be able to remember something as specific as a fighting style when he was one year old, I think there might be an error here. The first lorebook gave Widargelt's hiding place as "a remote temple of the Fist of Rhalgr," was it intended to be a different, unnamed temple that we don't see instead? If so, is it possible to fix these lines of dialogue?
    The more likely typo is that Widargelt is THIRTY-six instead of twenty-six, since that would make him 11 at the time of the razing and have enough memories of the monk style as well as Adri himself. But I feel like that opens up even more inconsistencies if it was indeed the case.
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