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  1. #61
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaggerjack View Post
    I hate how i have to look for a group for months and not find one and when you find one they expect you to know every fight
    So much over generalising here. Lovely.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaggerjack View Post
    i hate how the game is 1 room 1 boss
    I like it. No need to waste any time on trash mobs or running long distances to get to a boss room, especially if you're wiping a lot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaggerjack View Post
    can you please fix this raid mess and stupid mechanics thanks. you know its stupid when one mistake wipes the whole group
    Someone doesn't like responsibility or challenge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaggerjack View Post
    and you entitled to practice it when theirs not even a single practice run for raids in eu centers or Free company/Static unless your a f*** girl.
    Such wonderful constructive criticism!
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  2. #62
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    Oh boy another wannabe raider surprised that we don't pick just anybody for groups. I personally never had any issues making/joining existing groups but that might be because I actually am proven and not just some rando off the OF trash talking about fights I have no experience in.
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  3. #63
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    TBH I wouldn't want to join a practice group set up by OP. He sounds like the kind of dude who'd demand "1 mistake = kick" and then himself be the one who constantly wipes the party.
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  4. #64
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    Vivian_Vex's Avatar
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    Nivie Guillestet
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogue View Post
    I am not trying to single you out.I agree with you but he actually has some good points.It shows the true viewpoint of beginners.Every expansion we are building everything on top of our previous experiences.We are cool but newcomers have to jump from the beginning to the endgame. Dev team is also aware of this but they built the game twice and they cant change the core again(Even though they see this as a big problem).Especially SE cannot afford any core player loss so this will continue.By the fourth expansion trust me we will be hearing A LOT.

    My body is Ready!Cheers!
    As someone that only started when Stormblood was nearing it's end. This is not "the true viewpoint of beginners" in the slightest. It is the view point of a child and nothing more. I've absolutely loved everything about the raids and I know that will continue. I've even just about got my own static together for the EX/Savage fights.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogue View Post
    2.See,this is my point.Do you realize how much progress you need to do before even joining in actual raid group that can complete it?You explained it clearly so i will not go over it again but he is a new player and there is no way that he can realize people's acceptance raid.Can you tell that you would be accepted in to a final group without doing any of them you mention before?We,old players can easily understand the way of doing this.It will seem to us like a basic logic,on the other hand new players cannot realize this easily.This will be the steps they follow.Look for parties on the PF>find a party(and it will probably be a completion group)>join the party>get rejected by the party>try finding practice parties on Duty Finder>Wait 30 min and got nothing(This is where complaints start)>realize that you need to find practice parties on PF too>Join one of them>Wipe after few seconds>Give up and create a thread on the forum.

    Well if you see the enrage state with the practice group, you can label your "Practice"party as GOD TIER.
    I played in both NA(Gilgamesh) and EU(ODIN) more than one years each.Actually i recently transferred to Odin.I can easily tell that in EU, it is far worse.See even in this tread first thing that some of them did was looking for his achievements.
    Even if we're talking about beginners, which OP is clearly trying to make out that he's not, they would still notice the different PFs up and how each vary with description from fresh practice, know up to X, know all mechs etc. The only case a beginner would have that problem is when they join after the raid tier is over and no parties up except farm or some clears. But they get known for not knowing the mechs and get asked why they joined and told what to do 90% of the times. And now it's a lot more easier to figure out the flow of progging for savage works compared to 2.x eras.

    As for OP, this isn't the first time he's posted stuff where he completely exaggerates what happens and blow things out of proportions. And the reason people are digging out his logs and achievements is because he was bragging about killing Kefka when it was released, which is an impossibility if you haven't gone through all the steps we talked about for progging. And it turned out he killed Neo Exdeath when Sigmascape was out by a long time. So it's another case of him exaggerating.
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  6. #66
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    Jets Down
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    As I said for the first point. It is a valid complaint, but it's still subjective. You'll find some that love and some that don't.

    As for the second point, I would disagree here. You can easily find pugs for all the current tier raid. As I'm writing this right now, there's a fresh practice for O9s, farming party for O10s, Panto prog for O11s and clear group for O12s (and right now is not even the time for a lot of players to be active).

    I have completed all savage raids this expansion without having a static. I've pugged them all at my free time starting from fresh practice for each fight and joining the appropriate prog parties after till I reach enrage then I jump to clear ones after I optimize my DPS. And there are times where I don't find the appropriate prog level group so I make my own. Yes, sometimes it can take an hour to fill up or a couple of minutes, but that's based on what time of the day you're playing at. So I never dealt with log issues for clear runs, since they can't even discuss it in game chat. And people only bother to check your logs if it was a weekly run.

    I don't know how things are done on EU servers, but here in NA, we always start by joining practice runs (AKA fresh or blind run). Then we jump to the appropriate phase prog group based on how far you reached in the practice run. When you reach enrage, that's when you start joining clear groups. And once you clear, you start joining weekly runs. And there's always parties up for different types of progs. Statics only post in Party Finder if they needed a sub for one of their members. But they also post in their party description if they're a practice, prog, clear or weekly.
    It was the same for EU (was on there from joining the game in ARR to the server split) you are meant to join practice parties for roughly where you are in the fight and then clear parties once at enrage then farm parties after. Obviously there are outliers to this who join the wrong type of group hoping not to be noticed. I pugged the entirety of 03s in a week and got to grand cross omega before finding my current static, then we had hlr drama for o8s and i was backup hlr so until we found a replacement i had healed more of God Kefka than i had used nin so i'd asked raid group if could pug to learn nin stuff for it and ultimately joined a training grp for 2nd forsaken and got kill in that grp.
    Why did i tell that story because i really want to highlight to the OP the only one who is really hampering your experience to do raids is yourself and this is true anywhere.
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  7. #67
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    Souljacker's Avatar
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    I am having a really tough time taking this thread seriously.

    The title suggests that there's something wrong with the raids themselves, but the OP seems upset he hasn't cleared them? I admit I haven't peeked my head outside of Eureka for quite some time so I have no idea what is going on with the raids, but surely they are still exciting battles, no? Alexander was some of the most enjoyable content I've ever played and I suspect Omega was designed with the same level of attention and care.

    Of all the things to be upset over, the boss battles really shouldn't be one of them.
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  8. #68
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    I smell self-entitlement thick in the air. -sneezes-
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  9. #69
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Raids are completely optional though, it is your fault for not making effort to find a group, or create your own in pf and such.
    Those that want to raid badly find a way to get into groups..
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  10. #70
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    Ashgarth Sorel
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    Louisoix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaggerjack View Post
    i gurantee you am so much better then you least i killed kefka savage when it was still new.
    Yet you somehow can't even get into any groups or parctice runs.
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