How do we feel about the tank changes?

[Kabooa]

Now, if the majority of tank skills were all just the same skill with different animation "skins", then sure, people could say they homogenized the tanks. But that clearly isn't the case.

Uh, set of 3?

Speaking just now, a majority of the Tank kits are copy pasta.

[Kaedan]

Please show me where I said anything of the sort. You speak of over-reacting and knee-jerk reactions.... the irony of your response here is incredible.

I didn't say you said it. I was talking in general about ridiculous people claiming over-homogenziation.

Uh, set of 3?

Speaking just now, a majority of the Tank kits are copy pasta.

Yeah, set of three.
1) Defense skill that can be applied to all party members
2) A skill for OT to support MT
3) Personal Mitigation buffs

Those are the three types of skills that are homogeneous among all tanks. Other than that, there's very little homogenization from what we have seen from the LL. And it's completely false to claim a majority of Tank skills are "copy pasta". That's beyond ridiculous.

[Kabooa]

I didn't say you said it. I was talking in general about ridiculous people claiming over-homogenziation.




Yeah, set of three.
1) Defense skill that can be applied to all party members
2) A skill for OT to support MT
3) Personal Mitigation buffs

Those are the three types of skills that are homogeneous among all tanks. Other than that, there's very little homogenization from what we have seen from the LL. And it's completely false to claim a majority of Tank skills are "copy pasta". That's beyond ridiculous.

Gapcloser. Down to CD and effective potency.
Paladin and Warrior are still likely to have the same combat progression. (Alternate maintenance and spam, ogcd booster, spam highest potency move after)
The peek we had of Gunbreaker's invuln is just weaker Hallowed Ground.

The combo lines are mostly just to generate resource, so the effective difference between them is nil.
Even the "Tank stances" lost any differentiation between them, becoming just a trait they all share and a toggle at 10 for threat.

And this is just what we saw in the live letter.

In terms of current iteration (IE Stormblood) they are significantly worse.

[Kaedan]

Gapcloser. Down to CD and effective potency.
Paladin and Warrior are still likely to have the same combat progression. (Alternate maintenance and spam, ogcd booster, spam highest potency move after)
The peek we had of Gunbreaker's invuln is just weaker Hallowed Ground.

The combo lines are mostly just to generate resource, so the effective difference between them is nil.
Even the "Tank stances" lost any differentiation between them, becoming just a trait they all share and a toggle at 10 for threat.

And this is just what we saw in the live letter.

In terms of current iteration (IE Stormblood) they are significantly worse.

OMG! All tanks have a gapcloser! And they all have an effective invuln skill! They're all exactly the same job now! The sky is falling, we're all doomed!

Seriously, that's what you sound like here. And your examples are so generalized that all you're doing is committing the reduction to absurdity fallacy.

[Novak_04]

OMG! All tanks have a gapcloser! And they all have an effective invuln skill! They're all exactly the same job now! The sky is falling, we're all doomed!

Seriously, that's what you sound like here. And your examples are so generalized that all you're doing is committing the reduction to absurdity fallacy.

While I understand that we're making the same point, I have yet to see anyone take the "The sky is falling, we're all doomed" stance; it's a gross exaggeration and disappointing interpretation of what you're reading. You're looking for demons where there are none. People are exchanging thoughts and ideas about what they saw and where SE could and could not be heading. That's par for the course after any announcement regarding future projects. You're making this hyperbolic spectacle about people's reaction when, in fact, they're simply stating their thoughts on the matter. As mentioned before, the irony is that you're the only one here being over-dramatic about anything. The gender-lock thread is that way (->) if you're wanting to find someone to vilify. Otherwise, quit with the hyperbole. It's embarrassing for all of us.

[Kaedan]

Otherwise, quit with the hyperbole.

I'm not hyperbolizing at all. The poster I was responding to quite literally claimed the majority of the tank skills are the same, which is complete and utter bullshit.