War mains after seeing the skill trailer

[Kalise]

I don't really know to be honest... I really need to see how things are going to play out.

I mean, as far as flashy skills, we didn't get anything. The coolest thing was the little fireballs twirling around us after the buff skill was used...

As far as gameplay is concerned... That AoE Gauge generator is HUGE. Makes actually using Gauge skills in AoE a thing outside of IR.

Beyond that... I'm slightly concerned.

Like, the trailers shows using Inner Beast + Steel Cyclone. While Fell Cleave and Devastate are also available. They all still cost 50 Gauge.

So... Why would we ever use Inner Beast/Steel Cyclone still? Even if we don't have to take a damage hit on our combo skills or use Unchained to access them, it won't stop us from simply losing potency over just using Fell Cleave/Devastate.

Outside of that we literally weren't show like anything new. It was just Storm's Path/Eye combos oh and like half the clip was IR + FC spam... Great... More fun and engaging gameplay where it revolves entirely around IR being the a huge percentage of our damage /s

So, not only were we not shown any new cool moves, outside of an as yet undetermined "Buff" and a single AoE combo skill...

But we have no idea what's going on with a large number of our existing skills.

Like, we know Skull Sunder/Butcher's Block is being taken to the er... Butcher's Block. Along with other Tank Enmity combos.

What's happening with Maim now that Slashing Debuff is being removed?

What's happening with our stance? Are we keeping the crappy 0-10% Parry chance passive from Defiance or are we keeping the 0-10% Crit chance passive from Deliverance?

What's happening with Unchained? Since it's useless in its current implementation with a Tank stance with no penalties? Will this just be scrapped? Or will it be reworked into another DPS CD or something?

What's happening with Inner Beast/Steel Cyclone!?!? Why would we ever use these skills when they share resources for Fell Cleave/Devastate?

What's happening with Holmgang? Are we just going to have WAR being the undisputed MT's for the expansion because Holmgang is still so strong, now with the added bonus of ALL Tanks getting 20% DR and bonus health from a Trait now?

What's happening with Raw Intuition? Given the skill is kind of bad without Awareness, but Role Actions are being culled and we might not have the skill any more?

What's happening with Equilibrium? Is it just going to be a heal?

Is anything happening with Onslaught? Since Paladin is getting a Gap Closer that doesn't require any Gauge... Will WAR be the only tank whom needs to spend their Gauge on their gap closer? (Thus also has to plod slowly into battle...)

What's happening with Shake It Off? Are we still keeping this random AoE shield in our kit?

Like, everything seems to look like we're just losing a ton of skill and "Gaining" Inner Beast/Steel Cyclone... Which we'll never use still...

I dunno... At this point, it looks like WAR might continue to be the strongest Tank in the game, thanks to Holmgang, but might also become the most boring with gameplay which is exactly identical to the current gameplay, while every other Tank is getting a bunch of shiny new toys to play with...

I'll probably end up switching mains if this is the case... I don't care about being "Best" I want to play a FUN class...

[Cabalabob]

Something I noticed that I haven’t seen anyone talk about is the sound.

Anyone notice that when the WAR used overpower and the new AoE after it, it made the sound of a drain? Are WARs AoE’s gonna have an in built bloodbath effect?

[Maneesha]

yes thats how i view it, from this trailer we cant judge balance, also there is no reason to get into discussions about it and what has been in the past, i view this kind of videos as a "hype" videos. to excite you for the new classes, to showcase new stuff coming. thats why i will only compare what we saw and can say i am disappointed with warrior presentation compared to the other already existing tanks and what was shown.
about balance we will be able to discuss this when we get 5.0 patch notes or more informations and when we gather experience with the jobs.

i can say similar thing about other jobs, bard,dancer,machinist. dancer is new, some stuff looks cool, others we cant judge since we have no practical experience with it, compared to machinist.. bard looks boring, even thou you can see they showed a few new skills. mnk,ninja,samurai? monk was bland, ninja looked the best, samurai was ok, some new skills look cool and 2nd midare.

so yeah, i find comments like who was top tank,who didn't get love(balance) kinda pointless, since we cannot judge this from a single vid. but we sure can talk about who got new exciting skills, which for warrior were not shown

[Izsha]

Really not enough info for tanks. They spent the entire demo on gun (compared to dps that got lots of demo time), and a lot of broad stroke info that hits all tanks (stances, etc). Really all I have to go on is the mini trailers where drk got remade, pld looks flashy, war kinda uninspired. Before the war hate inevitably appears, I'm talking about new and flashy moves/animations. These trailers are designed to generate hype. Drk is mega ultimate hype train based on that vid. Pld is hype. Gun and war are really just kinda....'meh' excitement based on the stuff shown hype wise.

So we really just have more questions than answers on war as we saw very little that was new and did NOT see a lot of old things. So it's just an information void.

Not much hype, also not much info. Reserving judgement for more data.

[Renato]

I wish they went more in depth on what the new skills actually do but as a DRK main for the last 3 years, I'm content with what was shown. WAR has been in a good place for a long time, it looks like they didn't get too much but they also didn't explain much about the changes either.

Don't be selfish WAR mains, the other jobs need some love too.

[Anienai]

Don't be selfish WAR mains, the other jobs need some love too.

The cookies are mine!!!

[kobe-sabi]

im good during the live letter Yoshi said "War damage is still the best out of the 4 tanks", the buff we get when certain condition are met will give us a buff "WarCry" making our damage output better than any amount of FCleaves we throwout. plus i like the new animations for Inner Beast and Steel Cyclone, i dont think we can get something to go past a FCleave, unless we pull another Axe out.

[kobe-sabi]

Really not enough info for tanks. They spent the entire demo on gun (compared to dps that got lots of demo time), and a lot of broad stroke info that hits all tanks (stances, etc). Really all I have to go on is the mini trailers where drk got remade, pld looks flashy, war kinda uninspired. Before the war hate inevitably appears, I'm talking about new and flashy moves/animations. These trailers are designed to generate hype. Drk is mega ultimate hype train based on that vid. Pld is hype. Gun and war are really just kinda....'meh' excitement based on the stuff shown hype wise.

So we really just have more questions than answers on war as we saw very little that was new and did NOT see a lot of old things. So it's just an information void.

Not much hype, also not much info. Reserving judgement for more data.

Yoshi talked about War after the job trailer, but the interrupter felt hesitate to talk on what Yoshi was saying to her, it like she lost her concentration and dabble off saying "that's very Japanese". You can hear Yoshi explaining the buff as he named it "War Cry", but we will see on the 29th when the gag order is dropped for content creators

[Maneesha]

about what they said, yes warrior is probably still in a good position, hard to judge since we cant play with the new skills yet. what they've shown warrior looked boring and like he didn't level up yet.
interessting strawpoll from reddit :
https://www.strawpoll.me/18046427/r
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._jobs_are_you/

so yeah, about flashiness and excitement this trailer showed i guess it's no surprise that war,brd & blm are at the bottom.

[Kuurei]

I feel as if this Feller Cleave nonsense will create yet another era of "Warrior is Strong" memes. lol.

PLD and DRK had a lot of new shininess to them, which does make a lot of sense since people seem to see them as inferior to WAR (Somehow). Playing a WAR myself, I feel more like a DPS than a Tank generally, except those few moments where I burn a few things to not be as squishy.

GNB looks interesting, can't wait to heal peeps running it and the other tanks. XD