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  1. #11
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    loreleidiangelo's Avatar
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    Lorelei Diangelo
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 74
    I'll post more complete thoughts later but I will say on a general note I'm disappointed they didn't do away with AST Sects altogether, especially given that it looks like they're doing away with Galvanize on SCH (?). At the very least changing Nocturnal to a card-buffing Sect or something to fit more in with the job's theme. So tired of AST healing basically being watered-down WHM/SCH healing, would have loved a redesign on their heals rather than their cards (though those too had issues).
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  2. #12
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    LarcSekaya's Avatar
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    L'arc Sekeya
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    There are one of two ways I see cards going. Each card has either a sun, moon, or blue circle on top of it. These will either be the Royal Road effects baked in when you draw a card (but random) or an augment of an ability/card.

    If it’s royal road, moon may be the 200% duration, the sun could be 150% effectiveness and the circle could be AoE.

    What I would prefer is if they augment your next aspected ability. After using a card with a moon, you’ll get the nocturnal sect benefit. If you use the blue circle, you’ll get the diurnal sect benefit. If you use the sun, it may be both or an increase to damage. This way, you will constantly be using both sects during a fight instead of just one.
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  3. #13
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    Zeromon's Avatar
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    Zero'tas Dyr-mon
    World
    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I'd like to quickly add my analysis of the White Mage portion just to clarify some points regarding the new lilies.

    -Only one is consumed at a time.

    -At 9:07 in the video the WHM casts a buff, this consumes a lily and starts the vine timer.
    -At the same time you see a red lily bud begin forming.

    -At 9:12 you see another lily used, this time the red lily bud grows larger.

    -At 9:30 the final lily is used, and the red lily blooms.

    -At 9:37 the transition comes in, but you can see in the background that the lily gauge pulsed once. I assume this means the timer has completed and your lilies are replenished.

    From this I assume it's similar to SB SMN where you use three lilies to unlock a more powerful spell. Lilies regenerate every 20 seconds, though I'm not sure if its a full stack regeneration or just a single lily regeneration (the former seems the most likely but who knows).
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  4. #14
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    Zeromon's Avatar
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    Zero'tas Dyr-mon
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo View Post
    given that it looks like they're doing away with Galvanize on SCH (?).
    Galvanize still exists as shown here. White Mages got yet another instant heal but I'm positive that they've also got more shielding. I mean they've explicitly said they want all healers to have all types of healing, so I'm not too worried about healers having shield/pure/regen heals even if the names are moved around.
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    Last edited by Zeromon; 05-24-2019 at 11:48 PM. Reason: Added the quote

  5. #15
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    Maneesha's Avatar
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    Maneesha Rayne
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    Shiva
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    Warrior Lv 80
    soo uhm.. i am i the only one kinda bothered that both fairy's do the same and will be now glamours? which fairy skills are we going to lose? also why 2 separate summons, just make it 1 and give sch a /fairyglamour...
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  6. #16
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    Coltvoyance's Avatar
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    Athaleiya Eclesiance
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    People are being far too un-observant with the WHM section (except Zeromon). Here's what I noticed:

    New Hard Cast DPS Nuke - Likely Stone replacement but with Holy visuals

    New Party Member Buff - 3 flowers rotate around a chosen party member. Costs 1 black lily. Unless they got rid of Benison and this is a shield, this might be a damage buff for party members? (Yay utility!) If it's a damage boosting skill, that would be helpful since you have to spend all three black lilies to spawn the red flower for the new DPS skill. Otherwise we're blowing black lily heals/shields when none are needed during downtime to use our new big DPS move. (Although if it's a shield and it lasts a super long time, then casting it whenever to use up black lilies may not be a bad thing...)

    Note: The Vine/Branch starts pulsing after a lily is used. It's likely our Lily replenishment gauge.

    New Instacast DPS spell - Likely an Aero replacement but with more holy-esque visuals.

    New Instacast AoE heal - This skill costs 1 black lilly, seems counterpart to SCH Indom. Might Replace Assize? (otherwise we have 4 instacast AoE heals)

    "Plenary Indulgence" - Saw this breakdown in a Discord. If you watch closely, when the Plenary Indulgence Animation goes off a tell-tale orange/yellow shimmer applies to the party. This shimmer occurs in the game when ANY Buff is applied. Which means a buff was given to each party member; this buff disappears after 10 seconds. What does it do? It looks like it creates "After-Heals" check Medica just below for more.

    Medica 1 - The animation for this is Medica 1 (healing rings in the sky are the same, no white light cloud like Medica 2), but the visual effect on the players is exactly the same as Plenary Indulgence, which was just cast. The idea may be that if your party has the Plenary Indulgence buff, your heals get "After-Heals" or bonus potency or something of the like for 10 seconds. Not sure how much of this makes sense since it sounds like you could've just had us keep using Divine Seal/Largesse and called it a day... This is still speculation.

    Angel Wings - ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ No idea what these do. BUT according to a document leaked before the video aired (and accurately called out practically everything we saw) The Wings last 2 minutes, and gives you a massive healing buff.

    Medica 2 is used

    New Instacast AoE heal Is used again, consuming the final Lilly. Red flower blooms.

    Tetragrammaton is used

    Red flower DPS skill - The new Red flower on the job gauge grows with each black lily use. After you use 3 black lilies, the flower blooms and you can use a new huge DPS skill.

    Honestly, I see a lot of power being sunk into healing potency for WHM (and some refinements to how we deal damage) and the battles are gonna have to pump massive damage on the party for any of this to seem useful. Hopefully that's the case.

    Edit: Updated several parts after further research and more viewings of the video.
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    Last edited by Coltvoyance; 05-25-2019 at 04:54 AM.

  7. #17
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    Kabooa's Avatar
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    So missed this the first time through.

    Lord of Crowns applied a buff instead of hitting the target.
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