All Healers are now Pure Healers only

[gumas]

pure healer or not, in the end what whm do is no different than now as long that 1 skill is still exist.

holy spam

[van_arn]

The encounters determine expectations.

If you have a single damaging ability button, as long as you have downtime you'll be expected to use it by your party.

[Truen]

Thank you Yoshi-P for removing the dps mentality from Healers and restoring the role identity.

Trash. Not healing again after 5.0.

[Atlantasia]

Nothing good? Did you even watch the White Mage stuff?

We get wings, but what does it do? Boost heals like Largesse? That's exactly what it looked like in the footage. A bunch of heals, because WHM needed more heals in a game where healing is not a big focus outside of a few fights for healers. AOE heals at that when WHM has plenty right now.

Just because something looks pretty does not mean it's fun to play, unique and wanted/useful. We'll see what they exactly get as it gets closer to the expansion, but my low expectations haven't been met yet. I want the gap between WHM, SCH and AST at least closed a little. This live letter and presentation did nothing to show me that it has been.

[Nuna]

Are shields really less of a focus? They showed a slide of how they are now shown in the HP bar of the party list. This to me says that they are still important.

Never said they weren't important. Pure healer is whm and diurnal astrologian. If they'll all be pure healers, that means sch is put in line with those two in that category. Less of a focus on shielding was said because there's no way they'd give sch beefy heals then turn around and keep its shields the same.

[Kalise]

Are shields really less of a focus? They showed a slide of how they are now shown in the HP bar of the party list. This to me says that they are still important.

To be honest, this would go along with less focus on Shields and them being more like CD's that every Healer has access to.

So you can see what shield(s) are active to prevent overwriting them with your own CD.

As well as you know... Other jobs also having shields, such as BLM's Manaward, PLD's Divine Fail, WAR's Shake It Off, DRK's TBN... All of those can be useful to be able to see on HP bars. None of them relate to Healers.

The elephant in the room is WHM and their lack of utility. We get wings, a gradual charge lily gauge which still focuses on CD reduction, another ogcd heal, and a black lily that is used offensively. That is perfectly fine with me if that is the case, and look forward to it, but utility is still going to make AST/SCH meta.

While the Ability Trailer and brief snippets of information didn't really give much confidence surrounding WHM's usefulness in the meta (Outside potentially just having Black Lily be an absurd pDPS gain to match the rDPS of AST/SCH...)

The fact that it was mentioned that as a whole they are looking to prevent "Must Have" jobs for parties, which they're doing for other roles by reducing synergies - Such as removing Slashing/Piercing debuffs, reducing rDPS CD's on most non-Dancer jobs (Who's niche is apparently going to be rDPS boosts... But in a way that's supposed to not become meta?)

That should suggest they have some plan for WHM utility, or something to compensate for it. Especially so given they've literally turned AST's cards into all of them being rDPS increases so no more bad RNG getting Spire/Bole/Ewer and thus losing out on rDPS (Even more so if you can't Royal Road a Spire/Ewer beforehand for the AoE boost)

But I guess we'll see. Maybe that Black Lily can be spent on rDPS options? Maybe they simply get a CD that boosts stuff like Chain and we just weren't shown it in the trailer?

[Hysterior]

We will still have to DPS.
Why would the WHM lilies stack up to create a powerful DPS spell if you are only supposed to heal?
Don't get it twisted, every job in the game needs to optimize its DPS, including tanks and healers.
We might just need to do more healing, which I hope will be fun too

[loreleidiangelo]

The encounters determine expectations.

If you have a single damaging ability button, as long as you have downtime you'll be expected to use it by your party.

Which is fine tbh, but I think the game could have a much healthier healing-to-DPS ratio than it does now.

[Anselmet]

I must have interpreted what they meant wrong bc I thought the whole pure healer thing was a fix against noct ast and sch shields. That meaning if you are a diurnal ast or whm then you are the pure healer and your co healer with the shields only assist you with healing when needed. Now with sch getting more raw healing capabilities that means that no healer is only a pure healer. They are all pure healers. I didn't see anything about losing dps capabilities tbh. Just leveling the playing fields between whm and sch is what I thought.

[Lozza]

I must have interpreted what they meant wrong bc I thought the whole pure healer thing was a fix against noct ast and sch shields. That meaning if you are a diurnal ast or whm then you are the pure healer and your co healer with the shields only assist you with healing when needed. Now with sch getting more raw healing capabilities that means that no healer is only a pure healer. They are all pure healers. I didn't see anything about losing dps capabilities tbh. Just leveling the playing fields between whm and sch is what I thought.

Initially I took it like the OP did, but after they went through the subsequent bullet points this is the conclusion I came to. Though I'm not sure what groups they are looking at when they are talking about how SCH never heals in a group and leaves it all up to their co-healer. Indom, lustrate, and ex-cog are all amazing healing skills and the reason they aren't using physick more is because the content simply doesn't hit hard enough often enough to require any more healing than the ogcds all the healers currently have access to.