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  1. #11
    Player
    Enla's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 70
    I'm going to laugh if they don't up the damage to compensate. I like the more DPS oriented meta for healers but if they actually make healing challenging and worth the high uptime then I'll be pleased with the change. If not I'm likely role switching for the expansion.
    (4)

  2. #12
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    Heliantheae's Avatar
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    Ekhi Ysengrim
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    I'm hoping for a difficulty curve around the second or third dungeon. Bardam's mobs hit pretty hard the first time and there were those patrollers roaming around that was like a pull by themselves. I'd like more of that. And I'm curious what that "Job effectiveness will vary depending on player skill" at the bottom of the tank card meant. How much DPS we do will also depend on how much damage the tank takes.
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  3. #13
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    Ariane's Avatar
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    Ariane Claudel
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 97
    Quote Originally Posted by Nuna View Post
    That's not what pure healer means OP.
    Exactly. Read some of Yoshi-P's interviews to see what he means by it.

    From 2015: "Up until now, we designed scholars and white mages to be perfect partners for one another. Now, we suddenly drop Astrologian into the mix. In order to maintain the utility of both white mages and scholars, we decided to add the stances for Astrologian. In pure healing stance it can partner well with scholars, while it can switch to the barrier stance for partnering with a white mage."

    https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/12...dia-Event-5-19)

    A more recent quote: "When looking at this history of healing jobs. Making strong balance between three jobs it has been tough. With three its been tough, so with a 4th the balance might get even worse. Instead of doing this, we want to prioritize balancing them better this expansion so we didn’t want to add a new healer at 4.0 or 5.0. We really think we need to restructure the way healers are handled. We can’t keep this strict division between pure healer and barrier healer. Something needs to change here so we can maintain good balance. Thats the main reason we didn’t have a healer. First priority was to add a 3rd ranged, then a 4th tank while we balance the healers better."

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...8GTvPw4uI/edit

    WHM and diurnal AST are the "pure healers". SCH and noct AST are the "barrier healers".
    Yoshi-P not talking about damage. He's talking about how their heals work. "Pure healing" just means heals that just do straight healing (no shields).
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    Last edited by Ariane; 05-24-2019 at 12:16 PM.

  4. #14
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    van_arn's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Van Arn
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    As long as you have a single button that can do damage, you'll be expected to use it during downtime by your party.
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    Last edited by van_arn; 05-24-2019 at 02:41 PM.

  5. #15
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    gumas's Avatar
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    Character
    Rawon Special
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    it just mean we now more into healing role. instead of 60% heal 40% dps, we are now going 70% heal 30% dps, at least its how i think.



    the prophecy has spoken
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  6. #16
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 100
    Supposedly, this is a misinterpretation. JP refers to Regen healers as "Pure" healers. If we go with that, it seems more likely they are neutering shields but you'll still be expected to DPS just like we do now.
    (12)
    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  7. #17
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    Niqote's Avatar
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Supposedly, this is a misinterpretation. JP refers to Regen healers as "Pure" healers. If we go with that, it seems more likely they are neutering shields but you'll still be expected to DPS just like we do now.
    Bugger ...
    (1)

  8. #18
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    Sohee Kim
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 91
    I really don't care. Whatever just ends this pointless war between people that want healers to dps and healers that prefer to just heal.
    (1)

  9. #19
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    LeonTrifang's Avatar
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    Character
    Florian Nozomu
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Every class is required to participle in DPS. Plus, how boring would it be if you just pop a few Physicks on the tank and then basically sit down till they are wounded again? No, Pure Healer refers to direct healing. If you read the creators notes and listen to his words, you’d notice this.
    (11)
    “Courage is the magic that turns dreams into a reality”

  10. #20
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Seoulstar View Post
    I really don't care. Whatever just ends this pointless war between people that want healers to dps and healers that prefer to just heal.
    The war will never end unless encounter designs are changed to require more healing. Considering this will make healing "harder," the devs aren't going to do. Therefore, you will be expected to DPS.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


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