Hempen Camise and Pantalette’s Appearance to be Race Unlocked: Show Support

[SigmaOZ]

That kind of greed doesn't help the cause, Square Enix will never unlock anything race-exclusive!...

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

That kind of greed doesn't help the cause, Square Enix will never unlock anything race-exclusive!...

Good! I hope they don't

[FoxyAreku]

I dunno, I kinda like having some outfits be race specific. This game is really lacking in racial identity .

[CraftOs]

I dunno, I kinda like having some outfits be race specific. This game is really lacking in racial identity .

Well, to be fair, this game is lacking in *many* aspects. Content, crafting content, customization, primals, and more. It’s really up to the devs at the end of the day. For example, so many people want a male Viera, but will they actually do that? I personally don’t think it’ll happen, as much as I would love to see people enjoy using it. SE’s FFXIV division just doesn’t seem to have the same priorities as us.

[Duskane]

That kind of greed doesn't help the cause, Square Enix will never unlock anything race-exclusive!...

Perspective really can be seen as greed to keep them locked.

[Iscah]

The one thing I'd really want out of the actual starting gear being unlocked is the Roegadyn/Miqo'te 'gloves' for adding long sleeves to any body item. I hope we can eventually get something similar but generic.

I am for the hempen being unlocked, but it would be cool to see additional racial clothing released. After seeing how the 2 Au Ra clans dress/act their racial gear doesn't really reflect who they are. Heck, even the Miqo'te's gear doesn't make all that much sense either.

The starter gear would actually work well for Xaela. I'm surprised we didn't see any of the pieces used for any of the tribes, considering what a weird mix of sources they drew from to assemble the different outfits.

We as a community come up with our own jargon, and “gear” just simply isn’t the correct term to use for what you are describing. That would be glam/glamour items.

"Gear" is not a community-established term (although "glamour gear" to describe Lv1 all-classes gear pieces possibly is). It's used in the game - eg. as in "gear sets" which can include glamour gear.

I can understand your argument about starter gear. As that actually qualifies as “gear”, but Hempen? I can’t understand. Hempen is simply glamour, it is not “gear” and was not intended to be so.

I can't understand your argument why the hempen sets are somehow "not gear" compared to starter gear. Both are level 1 gear with minimal stats, sold by the same suppliers.

Looking at the stats:

Any starter shirt: DEF = 7/9, MDEF = 15/18
Hempen Camise: DEF = 6/8, MDEF = 13/16

(No, I don't understand why there are two numbers for each stat.)


"Gear" means any equippable clothing item, and the hempen sets function exactly the same as any other gear piece in the game. I'm not sure why you have an objection to the term.

Talking about racial clothing only:
Current status: Only Hyur can wear A, only Miqo'te can wear B, only Lalafell can wear C, etc. Homogenized within the races.
More Homogenization: All races can only wear A. There are no other options.
Less Homogenization: Hyur can wear C top and B bottoms, Miqo'te can wear B top and A bottoms, etc.

Tell me again how more options equals more homogenization? Your mind must work some twisted and convoluted logic to come to that conclusion.

I think you're confusing the terms "homogenisation" and "variety".

Letting everyone wear everything gives an individual character more variety.

Only giving everyone a single option (where that single option looks the same for everyone) gives us less variety.

But right now we already have variety. There are 14 (soon to be 16) varieties of race-and-gender-locked hempen sets, unmixably split up into different strands or sections (Hyur + option A, Miqo'te + option B, etc.). They are heterogenous, the opposite of homogenous. A simple example is water and oil in a container - they're "together" but they don't mix, forming separate layers.

But taking something that is currently heterogenous and mixing it together so the substances are evenly distributed (everyone can now wear everything) is exactly what "homogenisation" means.

I would like a male tank top. Thought I found one but it was just a hempen top, and it looks like a damn harness on me.

WHY!?

That's the male version of the "hempen camise" that's mentioned in the title of the thread. It looks different on all the races, and does tend more towards harnesses than the tank top that male Midlanders get (and is used as the unchanging icon).

Welcome to the pain of a female character who keeps seeing nice pants on icons, then tries them on to find they're yet another miniskirt.

[Aivi_lo]

I support this petition!...


I would also like all the running, standing, sitting and sleeping positions/animations to be unlocked to every race, as nature doesn't forbid wearing what one wants it shouldn't forbid positions or animations either!...

And the dances, yes please! I can fit into any scraps of fabric and copy any movements I see others make!