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  1. #41
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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Ravana
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    Conjurer Lv 96
    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    Which just takes 5 seconds to type to inform the healer if they were new.
    Why the healer specifically? In this dungeon, unlike other dooms, you stand on the glowing platform to remove the doom.
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  2. #42
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    W'kohrahx Tia
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    To be fair, if you are quiet and say nothing despite not knowing how to do a mechanic, how are people supposed to know to help you?
    I'm not entirely sure why everybody is nitpicking the things that I'm saying. I'm not telling anybody to look at guides, nor am I telling people to explain mechanics. I was simply relaying my experiences. I feel a 'peace of mind' feeling by memorizing the mechanics before I even enter the dungeon. I'll gladly take 10 or 15 minutes before my queue to read up if it means a smoother run without burdening the party.

    If people want to argue with me about that, then I don't know what to tell them....
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  3. #43
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by TalosEscher View Post
    yeah i am, it annoys me so im talking about it in public
    Keep on digging your petty hole, OP. It’s not really helping your argument.
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  4. #44
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    Talos Escher
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Miminming View Post
    "Why should i watch a guide qhen you can just tell me?"

    I've seen someone talk to a mentor that way... the mentor leave btw cant blame him
    yeah but mentors are dedicated to teach people, what i see from mentors are just people wanting an extra credit from roulettes and not actually teaching anyone, how can the game allow the one system that teach new players to learn new content to not work and force on people that have nothing to do with it to be forced to teach new players, and if they refuse they are being disrespectful and petty for not wanting to teach people about content that is not savage?
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  5. #45
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    Talos Escher
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Keep on digging your petty hole, OP. It’s not really helping your argument.
    i dont care, if i get people to agree with me im happy
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  6. #46
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalosEscher View Post
    i dont care, if i get people to agree with me im happy
    Clearly, there are people who don’t agree that players should watch guides for dungeons. I’ve never watched a guide for anything below a Savage level. Because they aren’t necessary.

    If someone asks about a dungeon mechanic, take 10 seconds out of your day to tell them how it’s done. I promise you it’s not hard. And it’s far more helpful than demanding they watch a 10 minute guide for something you can explain in 10 seconds.

    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    I'm not entirely sure why everybody is nitpicking the things that I'm saying. I'm not telling anybody to look at guides, nor am I telling people to explain mechanics. I was simply relaying my experiences. I feel a 'peace of mind' feeling by memorizing the mechanics before I even enter the dungeon. I'll gladly take 10 or 15 minutes before my queue to read up if it means a smoother run without burdening the party.

    If people want to argue with me about that, then I don't know what to tell them....
    I’m not arguing with anything. If you want to watch a guide for a dungeon, you do you. Can’t stop you.

    I’m just pointing out, if you stay quiet, how would you expect people to provide you any help that you may need? Especially since you made note to point out “what if no one bothered to explain it to me”. Consider that.
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  7. #47
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    Talos Escher
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    Red Mage Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    I'm not entirely sure why everybody is nitpicking the things that I'm saying. I'm not telling anybody to look at guides, nor am I telling people to explain mechanics. I was simply relaying my experiences. I feel a 'peace of mind' feeling by memorizing the mechanics before I even enter the dungeon. I'll gladly take 10 or 15 minutes before my queue to read up if it means a smoother run without burdening the party.

    If people want to argue with me about that, then I don't know what to tell them....
    you are fine, you are being a good person to focusing on efficiency and not giving other people problem over things you can do something about, you are the type of person we need, those that care.
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  8. #48
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    Boo Box
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    Rafflesia
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    Sage Lv 100
    If you're going to be completely unreasonable with this demand, then just stick with your friends and PF groups where you can force them to watch youtube guides. You will be happier, and the random folk in DF won't have to deal with you.

    Everyone wins!
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  9. #49
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    Talos Escher
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    Red Mage Lv 72
    [QUOTE=HyoMinPark;4984684]Clearly, there are people who don’t agree that players should watch guides for dungeons. I’ve never watched a guide for anything below a Savage level. Because they aren’t necessary.


    but there are people that do, and if its not necessary for non savage content why do people annoy others asking for help, when they arent mentors or anything? if its so irrelevant they shouldnt ask for help anyway
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  10. #50
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    Awashio Sazanami
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 100
    I don't expect people to watch guides.
    I will not watch guides.

    Guides do not even help me since i'm learning by doing.

    I try to explain the most important mechanics in a dungeon or normal trial.
    Extreme i go into learning parties.

    In farmparties, you should not be if you don't know.


    The end
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