watch a guide, you are not gonna die

[TalosEscher]

[QUOTE=HyoMinPark;4984684]Clearly, there are people who don’t agree that players should watch guides for dungeons. I’ve never watched a guide for anything below a Savage level. Because they aren’t necessary.


but there are people that do, and if its not necessary for non savage content why do people annoy others asking for help, when they arent mentors or anything? if its so irrelevant they shouldnt ask for help anyway

[Cheremia]

I don't expect people to watch guides.
I will not watch guides.

Guides do not even help me since i'm learning by doing.

I try to explain the most important mechanics in a dungeon or normal trial.
Extreme i go into learning parties.

In farmparties, you should not be if you don't know.


The end

[HyoMinPark]

but there are people that do, and if its not necessary for non savage content why do people annoy others asking for help, when they arent mentors or anything? if its so irrelevant they shouldnt ask for help anyway

There’s this thing called “learning”—some of the players you encounter are new players that aren’t familiar with certain mechanics. If they ask for clarification—or if they ask “anything of note I should watch out for”—that is them trying to learn. Why not help them by telling them what they have to look out for? Is that hard? I suppose so.

Dungeons aren’t Savage where a mistake can easily lead to a snowball into a wipe. If you were discussing Savage, I would be far more sympathetic with your ranting. But you’re discussing dungeons. Easy content or not, why are you trying to discourage people from asking for help?

It’s no wonder so many new players feel hesitant to ask for help when they’re met with players like yourself who want to shirk questions with “Watch a YouTube video”.

[Cheremia]

There’s this thing called “learning”—some of the players you encounter are new players that aren’t familiar with certain mechanics. If they ask for clarification—or if they ask “anything of note I should watch out for”—that is them trying to learn. Why not help them by telling them what they have to look out for? Is that hard? I suppose so.

Literally the first thing i do when i see new people at Nidhogg: The big circle with arrows is a stack marker, go there and STAY stacked please!!
But yeah, i'm with you.

Learning exes blind is very fun, very interesting and there are people willing to go into learnparties to actually help.

You can even go blind into savages... if you have a STATIC that is fine with it or you find people that are fine with it, so....


Let people watch guides if they want to, let people go in blind.

somebody in a dungeon/trial "i watched a video"
me "lol you didn't need to"

[TalosEscher]

There’s this thing called “learning”—some of the players you encounter are new players that aren’t familiar with certain mechanics. If they ask for clarification—or if they ask “anything of note I should watch out for”—that is them trying to learn. Why not help them by telling them what they have to look out for? Is that hard? I suppose so.

Dungeons aren’t Savage where a mistake can easily lead to a snowball into a wipe. If you were discussing Savage, I would be far more sympathetic with your ranting. But you’re discussing dungeons. Easy content or not, why are you trying to discourage people from asking for help?

It’s no wonder so many new players feel hesitant to ask for help when they’re met with players like yourself who want to shirk questions with “Watch a YouTube video”.

learning is fine, coming in blind is fine, even asking for help is completely fine to me, my point when i made this threat was to talk about how people react when i tell them to watch a guide, im not insulting anyone, im not even saying anything slightly rude, but if you say "watch a guide" people freak out

[HyoMinPark]

learning is fine, coming in blind is fine, even asking for help is completely fine to me, my point when i made this threat was to talk about how people react when i tell them to watch a guide, im not insulting anyone, im not even saying anything slightly rude, but if you say "watch a guide" people freak out

It's certainly not a response that will help them - so I can understand why they would find it rude. You're essentially shrugging off their question and refusing to assist them after they asked for it. I know I get particularly frustrated when I ask a question and someone refuses to answer it.