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    Mychael Rhykkad
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlunarfox View Post
    All of this




    It doesn't matter how many subs you think you brought in. There are technical barriers in the way and I don't think you understand that. The fact they even were able to implement a World Visit to help the servers was a good thing. They won't do something just because, YOU think you are more important than their own physical server limitations at the moment. Some things just aren't possible. You are the result of your own consequence.



    Too much logic. You may make his head explode. /s

    But hey, you get it!
    You acting all smug and holier-than-thou isn't helping any. The fact is we aren't the only FC that has this issue. AND it's the SECOND time they've let this happen! The same thing happened before SB and our FC suffered because of it. Now they are just proving that they have done NOTHING to alleviate the problem!
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    Loki Lux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mychael612 View Post
    You acting all smug and holier-than-thou isn't helping any. The fact is we aren't the only FC that has this issue. AND it's the SECOND time they've let this happen! The same thing happened before SB and our FC suffered because of it. Now they are just proving that they have done NOTHING to alleviate the problem!
    You not finding other workable solutions and yelling on the forums also isnt helping is it?

    My points still stand.

    This is nothing new. Find the work around until square manages to alleviate issues caused by its own players, or don't.

    They implemented World Visit as an attempt at a problem solution. It's not perfect, but given their hamsters for servers, its a good solution for now. It's up to you to do the best you can now. It's not like Gilga was ever a low pop server....
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverlunarfox View Post
    You not finding other workable solutions and yelling on the forums also isnt helping is it?

    My points still stand.

    This is nothing new. Find the work around until square manages to alleviate issues caused by its own players, or don't.

    They implemented World Visit as an attempt at a problem solution. It's not perfect, but given their hamsters for servers, its a good solution for now. It's up to you to do the best you can now. It's not like Gilga was ever a low pop server....
    The literal point of the forums is to point out issues to SE. That is the goal here. There is an issue and we are reporting it. Yes, we're looking for work arounds, but none of them are solutions. They are band-aids (and poor ones at that). The World Visit was NOT an attempt at a problem solution, as it does nothing to alleviate population. It too is a band-aid, and one that is not working either. Not when it takes more than an hour to get back to home servers.
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    People are kind of misconstruing the problem in their anger. As an FC Officer on Gilgamesh, we experienced this at the Stormblood launch. It was horrible.

    People on servers that are always open don't understand, because they have never experienced it, but a lack of new blood destroys a server. The vast majority of active players on a locked server, at any point in time, are logging on to cap their currency and then logging off, only coming back for their raid times. And even then, they are doing all of that in preformed groups, effectively isolated from the world. The world isn't alive. You don't see sprouts running around, doing crafting or dungeons or even FATEs (it happens from time to time). You don't see parties in PF asking for help on first clears of content most vets would have no reason to run, but might join on a whim if they are bored.

    And, most important for a lot of us, you don't see people joining FCs. The servers stagnate and die a slow death without the constant flow of new players, it's just an observable fact.

    Being on Gilgamesh for Stormblood sucked, because maybe a month after the launch the world was dead. I don't want to have to move my entire FC because SE lets that happen again. Saying "Well, you should have formed on another server!" is 100% victim blaming, and misses the point of why we are so upset about this.

    EDIT: Somebody brought up another point. Our FC resources. Airships, Subs, fully discovered navigation charts? That's up to a year (50 weeks) of work to get back, not to mention an insane investment of gil if you make the best parts for them. Are we supposed to just eat that cost because SE had two years to figure out how to fix this issue and just sat on their hands?
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    Last edited by LuminoZero; 05-15-2019 at 01:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuminoZero View Post
    People are kind of misconstruing the problem in their anger. As an FC Officer on Gilgamesh, we experienced this at the Stormblood launch. It was horrible.

    People on servers that are always open don't understand, because they have never experienced it, but a lack of new blood destroys a server. The vast majority of active players on a locked server, at any point in time, are logging on to cap their currency and then logging off, only coming back for their raid times. And even then, they are doing all of that in preformed groups, effectively isolated from the world. The world isn't alive. You don't see sprouts running around, doing crafting or dungeons or even FATEs (it happens from time to time). You don't see parties in PF asking for help on first clears of content most vets would have no reason to run, but might join on a whim if they are bored.

    And, most important for a lot of us, you don't see people joining FCs. The servers stagnate and die a slow death without the constant flow of new players, it's just an observable fact.

    Being on Gilgamesh for Stormblood sucked, because maybe a month after the launch the world was dead. I don't want to have to move my entire FC because SE lets that happen again. Saying "Well, you should have formed on another server!" is 100% victim blaming, and misses the point of why we are so upset about this.

    EDIT: Somebody brought up another point. Our FC resources. Airships, Subs, fully discovered navigation charts? That's up to a year (50 weeks) of work to get back, not to mention an insane investment of gil if you make the best parts for them. Are we supposed to just eat that cost because SE had two years to figure out how to fix this issue and just sat on their hands?
    As some one who has spent their entire FFXIV sub time with Balmung as a main server, I understand it's frustrating. I agree that there should be more changes in place to help Free Companies on congested servers. However, being as angry as the OP is just asking for SE to give a forum ban and delete the post.

    Furthermore, while the problem isn't fixed, progress has been made. Friends of FC members can make characters on another Data Center server and visit the congested server to hang out and even do content like hunts and maps. While this isn't the perfect end state, it's still loads better than it was and a sign that SE is addressing the issue in time.
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