Going on 2 hours of radio silence after logging in to find my character in GM jail

[alimdia]

so let me ask you a question, do you think uploading logs to a website without players ok is something SE should not action?

I would not get in trouble as I never said I'm uploading logs, all I said is that if someone is breaking the ToS they will likely post the logs somewhere else. Unless whoever is uploading them admits it in chat... SE takes no evidence coming from that log site.

Also for what it's worth, I have full freedom to copy the entirety of my battle log into excel, add the numbers and post the results somewhere else, nothing in the game forbids me from doing that.

[Physic]

I would not get in trouble as I never said I'm uploading logs, all I said is that if someone is breaking the ToS they will likely post the logs somewhere else. Unless whoever is uploading them admits it in chat... SE takes no evidence coming from that log site.

Also for what it's worth, I have full freedom to copy the entirety of my battle log into excel, add the numbers and post the results somewhere else, nothing in the game forbids me from doing that.

the key here would be that logs tracks the names of other players right? If you edit the names i doubt they would care, but if you were uploading it to a public website which saves data on all players, i think they could have a problem with that. Assuming they could prove someone was responsible.

[alimdia]

the key here would be that logs tracks the names of other players right? If you edit the names i doubt they would care, but if you were uploading it to a public website which saves data on all players, i think they could have a problem with that. Assuming they could prove someone was responsible.

You're missing the point. Anyone uploading anything anywhere is safe because SE can't police what people do in other websites, it doesn't matter who takes an issue to what. If you upload a log they can't do anything because they can't prove you're the one who uploaded it, they can't take down the website because those are just numbers that can't be copyrighted, they can only get you if you admit in-game in your own chat log that you are using 3rd party programs.

GMs can only ban people based one evidence they can actually access within the game, anything that happens outside the game doesn't matter unless you link yourself to that.

So the message is: play it safe, learn what is plausible deniability, don't admit to anything in chat.

[Physic]

You're missing the point. Anyone uploading anything anywhere is safe because SE can't police what people do in other websites, it doesn't matter who takes an issue to what. If you upload a log they can't do anything because they can't prove you're the one who uploaded it, they can't take down the website because those are just numbers that can't be copyrighted, they can only get you if you admit in-game in your own chat log that you are using 3rd party programs.

GMs can only ban people based one evidence they can actually access within the game, anything that happens outside the game doesn't matter unless you link yourself to that.

So the message is: play it safe, learn what is plausible deniability, don't admit to anything in chat.

my point is less, can they prove it, and more is it against the spirit of how they want things to go.

point being, if you get caught doing something, Yoshida says is the main reason they dislike parsers, i wouldnt expect no drama.