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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    I'm just going to leave this here because it comes to me every time I hear devs mention things like this. If you know of this game's modding scene, his post becomes especially laughable.

    Already been discussed in this thread, you are wrong, the modders routinely say they can't fix certain bits of gear they mod to make them right,frequently break character models and textures. Plus, from the pictures I've seen, most of their work looks flat, like an image basically just laid onto a model. There's no texture, no feel to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Already been discussed in this thread, you are wrong, the modders routinely say they can't fix certain bits of gear they mod to make them right,frequently break character models and textures. Plus, from the pictures I've seen, most of their work looks flat, like an image basically just laid onto a model. There's no texture, no feel to it.
    He isn't entirely wrong. When they claim we can't have barefeet because it would cause us to float... you can only laugh since modders more or less accommodated for that exact issue—even adding toes on an otherwise paddle model. Furthermore, the excuse becomes absurd considering how often we float or clip through things anyway. Can modders fix everything? Of course not. But the work some of them have done are far better than many of the outfits SE comes up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    But the work some of them have done are far better than many of the outfits SE comes up with.
    In terms of what ? Personal preferences/styles ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    He isn't entirely wrong. When they claim we can't have barefeet because it would cause us to float... you can only laugh since modders more or less accommodated for that exact issue—even adding toes on an otherwise paddle model. Furthermore, the excuse becomes absurd considering how often we float or clip through things anyway. Can modders fix everything? Of course not. But the work some of them have done are far better than many of the outfits SE comes up with.
    Can I see this accommodation? I'm curious what was done. I've got some suspicions that their "fixes" absolutely ruin the appearances of certain gear that they either never use or just don't care about. I don't doubt modders talent and enthusiasm, however they work without a lot of the restrictions actual devs have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharne View Post
    In terms of what ? Personal preferences/styles ?
    Design. Of course, subjectivity plays a factor but considering some of the outfits modders have either ported from other games or designed themselves. They are typically better. Sadly, I cannot post pictures because the OF isn't exactly going to approve of it lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Can I see this accommodation? I'm curious what was done. I've got some suspicions that their "fixes" absolutely ruin the appearances of certain gear that they either never use or just don't care about. I don't doubt modders talent and enthusiasm, however they work without a lot of the restrictions actual devs have.
    For the barefeet mod? It doesn't ruin anything. They simply redesigned the foot to essentially cover where the sandal would be otherwise. It looks seamless for the most part, but as I said above. I can't link an example here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Can I see this accommodation? I'm curious what was done. I've got some suspicions that their "fixes" absolutely ruin the appearances of certain gear that they either never use or just don't care about. I don't doubt modders talent and enthusiasm, however they work without a lot of the restrictions actual devs have.


    Looks fine to me. The major drawback with a community mod rather than something official from SE is that this only applies to certain character models. For instance, this mod wouldn't work on a Lalafell or a Roegadyn because their feet are shaped differently.

    Still... better than nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post


    Looks fine to me. The major drawback with a community mod rather than something official from SE is that this only applies to certain character models. For instance, this mod wouldn't work on a Lalafell or a Roegadyn because their feet are shaped differently.

    Still... better than nothing.
    for modders better than nothing is good enough, for SE they have certain artistic standards, utility requirements, and QA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    for modders better than nothing is good enough, for SE they have certain artistic standards, utility requirements, and QA.
    When SE's artistic standards are "draw black lines on paddle feet because we can't be bothered to make actual toes." I'm going to call BS.
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    So,getting Bunny ears you have already in the Golden Saucer on Humans make Helmets hard to remoddel? Same wit roes, you have the model already, you just added the Tekken 2 head on it. If it´s not in the Budget to just stick the ears on male Humans, i don´t wanna know how much is Copy Paste in Shadow Bringer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post

    Looks fine to me. The major drawback with a community mod rather than something official from SE is that this only applies to certain character models. For instance, this mod wouldn't work on a Lalafell or a Roegadyn because their feet are shaped differently.

    Still... better than nothing.
    That is not a good defense when trying to sell something to people who play Lala and Roe, especially JP which has a very high concentration of lala players. As someone else stated, SE has standards, status quo and QA. Not to mention these mods are only for PC players, meaning console is entirely locked out. Better than nothing is literally nothing for a major percentile.
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