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  1. #51
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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Ravana
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    Conjurer Lv 96
    Somewhere in an alternate universe there's a thread called:
    You'd think that people sporting a sprout icon would try to act like one.
    With the description:
    Why, despite being new, not knowing mechs and not knowing rotations, they do not ask for help? :V
    Why do some sprouts know all mechs perfectly when it's their first time!? They should be acting like sprouts with that sprout icon!!
    (4)

  2. #52
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    Vanitas's Avatar
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    Vanitas Olterian
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    A mentor stole the girlfriend I never had...
    (4)
    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    You're good at the game? You're an elitist.
    You're using a parser to better yourself? Elitist.
    You're making suggestions on how someone can improve themselves? E l i t i s t.

    You wipe a farm party constantly but you're having fun playing your way. Nah you're fine dude.

    This community astounds me at times.

  3. #53
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    Ibuki-'s Avatar
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    Suika Melonway
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    Kujata
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    Somewhere in an alternate universe there's a thread called:
    You'd think that people sporting a sprout icon would try to act like one.
    With the description:
    Why, despite being new, not knowing mechs and not knowing rotations, they do not ask for help? :V
    Why do some sprouts know all mechs perfectly when it's their first time!? They should be acting like sprouts with that sprout icon!!
    On this, I really have to thank video guides on the internet.
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  4. #54
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    Alucard135's Avatar
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    Diaval Alucard
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ibuki- View Post
    On this, I really have to thank video guides on the internet.
    How dare you look up a guide on the internet and not ask a mentor to babysit you through all content? /s
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  5. #55
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    Hash_Browns's Avatar
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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    There is a reason why there is another thread about people thinking mentors are bad you know.

    If a sprout asked a bad mentor and had been badly treated you expect him to ask again?

    But I guess its better complaining about OP rather than make them feel welcome to ask.

    You can also make a macro so you won't have to type it everytime.
    That's a double edged sword your putting on your plate.
    Look in this section of the forums. Their is a thread of a player who asked another player two questions, and they reported them for harassment, and some people in the thread agree on that.
    Why should I reach out to players if I'm going to be the target for trying to help?
    Mentors already get a bad rap as is, and I personally don't see any reason to reach out to players who don't want to ask for the help.

    So yes, I expect to be asked, because if a player asks I'm not going to be met with "you don't pay my sub," or "stop harassing me."
    (4)

  6. #56
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    Selova's Avatar
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    Veliona Umrtia
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    There is a reason why there is another thread about people thinking mentors are bad you know.

    If a sprout asked a bad mentor and had been badly treated you expect him to ask again?

    But I guess its better complaining about OP rather than make them feel welcome to ask.

    You can also make a macro so you won't have to type it everytime.
    This works both ways. Dont expect a mentor to stick their necks out trying to help people if they are going to be met with hostility by acting like you just insulted their mother and kicked their dog by offering advice.

    People dont take too kindly when otherd try to group all mentors together and make baseless generalizations based upon anecdotal experiences. You having a bad experience with a mentor =//= all mentors being terrible.

    That being said, mentors also have no obligation to meet your personal standards of what you think a mentor should be doing or how they should be acting at all times. You dont get to make that decision.

    Those of us that are mentors will continue helping those that seek help, but the more we are met with hostility for trying to help the less we are willing to put our best foot forward to approach those that we notice are struggling.

    There are plenty of helpful mentors, but the bad ones are louder than the good ones. Be the change you want to see, instead of expecting everyone else to be that change for you.
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  7. #57
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    LeonTrifang's Avatar
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    Florian Nozomu
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I’m actually working to get my mentor status right now. I just need to do 97 dungeons and I’ll be able to become a mentor! I’m going to help as many people as I can, and reading these posts, I see it’s best to only help other if they ask. So thanks everyone! I hope I’m a mentor everyone can look up to!
    (3)
    “Courage is the magic that turns dreams into a reality”

  8. #58
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    Hash Browns
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by LeonTrifang View Post
    I’m actually working to get my mentor status right now. I just need to do 97 dungeons and I’ll be able to become a mentor! I’m going to help as many people as I can, and reading these posts, I see it’s best to only help other if they ask. So thanks everyone! I hope I’m a mentor everyone can look up to!
    Real talk.
    Novice Network is actually pretty great for helping people.
    A lot of people will just use it to chat, but ever so often someone asks a question, or asks for a someone for a dungeon.
    Did a dungeon with someone yesterday, and they didn't know how to limitbreak etc. People in the NN will ask for help if they need it!

    It's like a big friendly chat group that just kinda hangs out, and helps people who ask every so often.
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  9. #59
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    LeonTrifang's Avatar
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    Florian Nozomu
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    Goblin
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    Real talk.
    Novice Network is actually pretty great for helping people.
    A lot of people will just use it to chat, but ever so often someone asks a question, or asks for a someone for a dungeon.
    Did a dungeon with someone yesterday, and they didn't know how to limitbreak etc. People in the NN will ask for help if they need it!

    It's like a big friendly chat group that just kinda hangs out, and helps people who ask every so often.
    That sounds really nice. It will be lovely to be a part of that.
    (1)
    “Courage is the magic that turns dreams into a reality”

  10. #60
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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    Real talk.
    Novice Network is actually pretty great for helping people.
    A lot of people will just use it to chat, but ever so often someone asks a question, or asks for a someone for a dungeon.
    Did a dungeon with someone yesterday, and they didn't know how to limitbreak etc. People in the NN will ask for help if they need it!

    It's like a big friendly chat group that just kinda hangs out, and helps people who ask every so often.
    This.. REALLY depends on which server you're on. In some places it's basically Barrens chat and people who ask questions just get mocked.

    Quote Originally Posted by LeonTrifang View Post
    I’m actually working to get my mentor status right now. I just need to do 97 dungeons and I’ll be able to become a mentor! I’m going to help as many people as I can, and reading these posts, I see it’s best to only help other if they ask. So thanks everyone! I hope I’m a mentor everyone can look up to!
    I wish you the best of luck and hope your experience is a positive one. I applaud your approach and mindset.
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